Okay so I don’t usually look at the blogs suggested to yall on my blog, but I realized that one of them is incredibly fucking racist and Im genuinely not sure why it’s on there at all
Yeah, unfortunately there are some blogs out there claiming they’re Polaris fans that are not only horrible, but horribly racist. I’m pretty sure the one you’re talking about is one of several I blocked for harassing me.
I hope the one you saw doesn’t give the impression Lorna fans are anything like that guy, cause we’re really not. All my mutual follows over Lorna are awesome inclusive types eager to see diversity both in general and with Lorna specifically. ❤
I have to say I feel more connected to my mutual follows on here than I’ve felt on any other sites I can think of. We seem to share more candid thoughts that span the wide range of topics and emotions. It’s different from Twitter where a lot of my feed feels mostly focused on bad stuff happening, or boards that feel alternately too sterile and too unnecessarily dramatic.
This was going to be about Polaris tweets, but the first tweet I had to highlight generated so much text from me that I’m making it its own post.
I need to talk about this because Gail thinking Lorna would be a hard sell underscores heavy bias against Lorna at @marvelentertainment.
To repeat: I said bias from Marvel, not bias from Gail Simone. What she said here says nothing about her views on Lorna. Do not “go after” or complain about her for providing insight into what she has to take into account when working with a company as biased as Marvel.
Now to the meat of my post.
Lorna is a character who has never received even one solo, miniseries, one-shot or dedicated origins book. This is while so many other characters – including ones only the most hardcore of hardcore readers have ever heard of – have received solos.
Blink got her own solo series. Firestar got not one, but two solo volumes. Strong Guy. Layla Miller. Shatterstar. Longshot long before Deadpool 2. Chamber, a character I literally never heard of until I put together one of these lists, had his own 4-issue miniseries in 2002.
Marvel’s able to make solos and one-shots for all of these characters, but not for Polaris? Somehow, giving Lorna a single series is a hard sell at Marvel?
It’s even worse when you consider the full context. The live-action version of Lorna is the most popular character on Gifted. This year is the 50th anniversary of her creation. She’s the second female X-Men member. If you check social media, you see tons and tons more people requesting or demanding that Lorna get to lead a team, or get to have a solo book, or so many other things.
Polaris is not only at the height of her popularity, she’s not only jumped over every hurdle these other characters that got series had to jump, she’s exceeded the qualifications.
If Lorna isn’t able to get a solo under these conditions, conditions that no other character that got a solo had to have to get theirs, then what the hell is it going to take? Does the idea of her have to end world hunger first? Does the U.S. government have to declare the day of her creation National Polaris Day? Would that be enough for Marvel to give her a solo book?
Or is no amount of popularity or demand in need of supply ever going to be good enough for this company?
I mean…even Lockjaw has a miniserie and he is a dog.
Simone right now is writing a Domino solo book, if you can sell Domino I think you can sell Polaris.
Every issue is way below what Marvel would consider the cancellation point for an ongoing. Yet they have no problem greenlighting stuff like this while never putting out a Polaris solo or mini.
Sexism? Or ingrained fanboyism that makes them hail the shit runs where Lorna gets knocked out and has self image issues and is worried she’s fat? When she’s Alex’s little fainting wall flower? That’s the only guess I can think of. Lorna is an amazing character. I love her dearly.
Also Seannan McGuire is going to do an X-MEN thing.. she’s a fabulous author.. maybe we could ask her thoughts?
I think it’s both sexism and fanboyism. They’re fanboying over sexist elements and interpretations of X-Men history, and when I say sexist, I’m including looking at things exclusively from a male gaze and male perspective. It’s very easy for fanboys to justify sexism as “but that treatment is canon so it’s okay” and believe not following sexist attitudes would be “going against canon.”
I’m cool with people asking Seanan, but at this point I’m starting to think @marvelentertainment‘s bias against Lorna extends to hiring people that wouldn’t rock the bias boat, or wouldn’t think Lorna is “worth the trouble” of rocking that boat compared to other characters.
Every writer that’s asked about Lorna specifically that actually answers, either suggests she’s not viable or dismisses the idea of that writer him or herself doing the work.
Bunn’s said before a Polaris solo or mini would be cool but he doesn’t think he’s the person to write it (though to be fair, I was being harsher about him writing her at the time – and I think I was justified in that).
Gail Simone in my starting post up there says Lorna would be a “hard sell” and rather than saying she’d push for it, then moves on to saying there are other women she thinks could get a book.
Other writers have talked about her, but none of them have volunteered the thought of “I think we should really push for her to get a book” or “I’ll see what I can do.”
The closest to someone saying such a thing was when Mark Paniccia had Polaris for his profile and talked about her here and there, but even there, it never really amounted to much happening for Lorna in the comics. Either he didn’t push very hard either, or he did what he could and we didn’t see it but the higher-ups at Marvel are just that heavily biased against her.
This was going to be about Polaris tweets, but the first tweet I had to highlight generated so much text from me that I’m making it its own post.
I need to talk about this because Gail thinking Lorna would be a hard sell underscores heavy bias against Lorna at @marvelentertainment.
To repeat: I said bias from Marvel, not bias from Gail Simone. What she said here says nothing about her views on Lorna. Do not “go after” or complain about her for providing insight into what she has to take into account when working with a company as biased as Marvel.
Now to the meat of my post.
Lorna is a character who has never received even one solo, miniseries, one-shot or dedicated origins book. This is while so many other characters – including ones only the most hardcore of hardcore readers have ever heard of – have received solos.
Blink got her own solo series. Firestar got not one, but two solo volumes. Strong Guy. Layla Miller. Shatterstar. Longshot long before Deadpool 2. Chamber, a character I literally never heard of until I put together one of these lists, had his own 4-issue miniseries in 2002.
Marvel’s able to make solos and one-shots for all of these characters, but not for Polaris? Somehow, giving Lorna a single series is a hard sell at Marvel?
It’s even worse when you consider the full context. The live-action version of Lorna is the most popular character on Gifted. This year is the 50th anniversary of her creation. She’s the second female X-Men member. If you check social media, you see tons and tons more people requesting or demanding that Lorna get to lead a team, or get to have a solo book, or so many other things.
Polaris is not only at the height of her popularity, she’s not only jumped over every hurdle these other characters that got series had to jump, she’s exceeded the qualifications.
If Lorna isn’t able to get a solo under these conditions, conditions that no other character that got a solo had to have to get theirs, then what the hell is it going to take? Does the idea of her have to end world hunger first? Does the U.S. government have to declare the day of her creation National Polaris Day? Would that be enough for Marvel to give her a solo book?
Or is no amount of popularity or demand in need of supply ever going to be good enough for this company?
I mean…even Lockjaw has a miniserie and he is a dog.
Simone right now is writing a Domino solo book, if you can sell Domino I think you can sell Polaris.
Every issue is way below what Marvel would consider the cancellation point for an ongoing. Yet they have no problem greenlighting stuff like this while never putting out a Polaris solo or mini.
salarta 