NX tweet on Polaris and Magneto

Something I’ve been meaning to post for a while now and just never got around to it before.

NX is an official Netflix Twitter account. I think it’s the studio behind their original programming, but I’m not certain about that. The first tweet in this string was rating other well-known X-Men characters, and a lot of people asked for their thoughts on other characters.

I’ve seen a lot of Lorna referred to as underrated, and at this point, I don’t think it’s an accurate estimation of how the general public views her. I think it’s an estimation of how Marvel views her. A lot of people take their cues on how they think the general public sees a character based on how Marvel treats them.

Wolverine is overrated because he gets way more emphasis than he should from Marvel. Magneto is overrated for the same reason. Likewise, Lorna gets almost nothing from Marvel, and typically has things stolen from her to benefit other characters. Ergo, she’s underrated, otherwise Marvel would treat her better. Right?

But she’s really not underrated by the general public. You don’t know what you don’t know, so people who don’t realize she exists aren’t able to rate her. And the people who DO know she exists and have put much thought into her, they seem to realize she has way more potential than Marvel’s been willing to acknowledge and use.

Polaris overdue for solo tweets

A question was asked on Twitter: which Marvel characters people think are overdue for a solo.

That naturally prompted several people – including myself – to outright say Lorna. Here are the tweets I’ve seen so far.

The previous had a reply of someone agreeing with them.

There’s plenty more Polaris tweets out there! But I wanted to get this one across right now as it shows more of the demand for Lorna to get a solo.

Tweets Showing Interest in Polaris

Yesterday, how much interest exists for Polaris/Lorna Dane on Twitter came into question. Well, I’ve been compiling tweets about Lorna for several months now. I’ve saved screenshots of over 200 tweets in that time. I’m sifting through and making use of some of them.

This post serves one purpose: to show those tweets I’ve found that demonstrate a strong desire that people have to see more of Polaris.

No commentary from me. Just a couple introductory “rules” and disclaimers to what I’m presenting.

No tweets about Gifted.

Will attempt to not use the same person more than once – can’t guarantee I won’t slip up.

For the top 10 lists, I opted not to save all the tweets including her cause I thought that would be annoyingly and unnecessarily repetitive.

With that, here we go. 72 tweets on this post. Broken down by category.


Underrated, Underused, Deserves Better

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Solo/Ongoing

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Examples of Her Value

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Lorna & Wanda

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Leading Team

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On Team

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Top/Fave

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Films

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Video Games

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For Sale: Polaris Tweets, Never Posted

I have another post to make later. Tonight if I have the time and I’m not too tired. But this is overdue.


People are starting to talk about how it’s Lorna’s 50th anniversary next month. Marvel won’t acknowledge it, but others will.



Yep. People are increasingly aware of how shitty Havok has been for Lorna’s history. Having Lorna’s return and use on Blue hijacked by Havok to promote him and then Havok leading a team book while Lorna gets nothing doesn’t help that sentiment whatsoever.



I include this one because literally nobody has liked or retweeted it, vs the one it’s quote-retweeting getting 3 retweets and 19 likes.



Concern is rising about this. I don’t feel like writing extensively at the moment. Just. It’s pretty much what I warned could easily happen on this show after Dreamer was killed off so poorly.



Another to go with the Havok stuff up there. Guy’s trolling obviously. But it’s the same sentiment as the guy I ran into back in 2009/2010 that said Lorna should be left in space limbo to “keep her away from characters that matter.”



Couple new top 10 posts.



Segura doesn’t work for Marvel, but this is a vivid show that there are writers that would like to write Lorna in some capacity.

If they don’t work at Marvel right now, then it’s an issue that Marvel isn’t hiring people that would want to write her. They’re hiring people that match their personal sentiments that disadvantage Lorna.



Talk rising of how Lorna should be included in MCU based stuff with the rights going back to Marvel.



Remarks of how mental health issues are common in the Magnus family, and also questioning the trope of women “going crazy” in comics. I’d say a more accurate point here is women with great power suddenly turning out shitty or evil when they get it. Jean Grey, Scarlet Witch, Polaris, Sue Storm, Monica Rambeau (when Avengers leader), there’s a tendency in many past comics to paint women in a bad light.



Actually, I’d say Lorna could be bi too. But lesbian would fit just fine. Say that dating Havok was self-loathing. And it’s not like Marvel has any other characters in her history to deal with. They haven’t allowed her to date anyone that isn’t Havok.



Just some WATXM value.



The issue he’s talking about is, I believe, Uncanny X-Men #442 or #443 (I’m too lazy right now to make sure I got the number right). Austen’s run. Which shows how that run was integral to her character.



General fandom and character gushing.


Damn right she is!



This is an example of how interest in Lorna has spread. Again, people are dyeing their hair green specifically because of their interest in Lorna. People don’t do that over characters they don’t care much about.



Final tweet to highlight, for its great point. Marvel tries to seem progressive and supportive of diversity, yet they have all these great female characters that they don’t utilize in any real and proper way. Which, of course, includes Lorna.

That’s all here. I will have a post in the near future with no commentary, just tweets posted, to make a very specific point when I send someone the link.

Polaris tweets part gajillion

WHEN IIIIIIIII WAS A YOUNG WARTHOOOOOOOOOOOG



This is two tweets I’ve found recently of people specifically asking Thompson to do stuff with Lorna.

I don’t think her reply in the second pic means anything; there were multiple suggestions, she could’ve been replying to any or all of them.

For the most part, I don’t have any particular feelings right now on whether Thompson would be good or bad for Lorna. I don’t know enough about her or her writing.

She would fulfill one of my recent ideal criteria, which is Lorna written by a female writer. I think a lot of the problems with the way Lorna’s been written by Marvel stem from a male writer POV. Lorna was written well in the few pages Marjorie Liu used her, for example.



I have more tweets focused on fave characters of the tweeter, but I wanted to spotlight these two because of the X-Men Blue panel used. As I said in another Tumblr post, I’m seeing that panel more and more on social media. I think it shows people want Lorna to be Magneto’s daughter, they want it used and explored, but they also don’t want it to be treated like it’s all there is to who Lorna is as a character.



More fave character sorts of posts for Lorna.



More requests/demands for Lorna to get a solo book, to go with what I’ve pointed out in other posts.

I’m also really glad to see Lorna increasingly referred to as a Queen. I think most people are just using it as a title of respect, but in her original storyline she was called the Queen of Mutants. Plus she was set as the heir of Genosha. So it all fits perfectly. The sassy and beautiful green queen.



Damn right she does.



Another tweet of someone signaling they’d like Lorna to be a lesbian, or that they personally see her as lesbian.



And on the flip side, this. The original tweet from Marvel was about a list of who in the Marvel universe had the best beards.



I’m pretty sure this is someone wondering if Marvel’s going to try to kill Lorna off in the next Marvel event. I can see other ways of meaning though, mostly playful.



We all know there’s a lot of love for the ideal Magnus family, here’s another tweet to that point.



I’ve seen a fair number of these kind of tweets. I think it says something about Lorna’s popularity and how awareness has spread of her when people do these “character you remind me of” tweets and Lorna is among the characters thought of.

And that be it for now.

Tweetin time. I’m listening to the new Vicious album by Halestorm as I write this up, which I highly suggest listening to cause it’s awesomesauce.


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This tweet got the date wrong; #49 came out in October 1968. But. This tweet itself is wonderful and important just for the attempt to acknowledge Lorna and when she first appeared.


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This is canon now cause I say so.

Okay, okay. Honestly, bi fits her more. But personally I’d be fine with this too.

Also I like the dig on Havok because I’m sick as fuck of Lorna getting dragged down to promote his stories and put him on a pedestal. And I’d say the number of retweets and likes for this tweet says something in itself.

For those who don’t know, comphet means compulsory heterosexuality, as in someone acting heterosexual because society expects them to be.


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A few more cases of people saying they’d want a Polaris solo already goddamnit Marvel stop refusing to do good things.


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A couple cases of Lorna listed as a character that should be included in X-Men rosters.


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Two more tweets about wanting her to be in Future Fight. It’s getting old that she keeps getting excluded for no good reason whatsoever.


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There were a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of responses to the second one that included Lorna in their top 10. I’m only posting this one case because to post all the responses including Lorna could’ve taken up a post all by itself.

Plus even before the responses, the fact Lorna was included in the picture kicking off the thread says a lot.


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This tweet demonstrates how bad this cover was in the way it presented Lorna. Months have passed and views have very much not changed.


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First tweet was for aesthetics of favorite characters. Second tweet was a series of Magnus family aesthetics.


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On that note, more people talking about the idea of Lorna and Wanda fighting – an idea I’ve absolutely backed before. But the key to a fight is having actual emotional stakes and playing on their being sisters, not just having them fight for the hell of it.

Also stands out to me that they chose to use a pic of comics Lorna (in this case, Jeff Parker’s Exiles) instead of Gifted’s live action interpretation to match with the MCU Wanda pic.


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Another case of fancasting an MCU version of Lorna, this time with Lorna as black. IMO I think she’d be a great fit of known actresses, but I still feel an “unknown” actress would fit better.


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And wanting Lorna in the MCU again.


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One of my headcanons is Lorna having a moment very akin to Wanda’s House of M tied to the trauma she’s gone through, getting pushed too far, etc. I think this shows a lot of people feel the same way in wanting something similar.


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Another tweet about how Lorna’s Jewish ancestry, and how it doesn’t really come up much in use of her.


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Various Lorna appreciation. I increasingly love Lorna referred to as queen. In her original storyline, she was called Queen of Mutants by Mesmero and followers. Going back to that would be great.


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And for my final highlight tweets, two people talking about how Lorna deserves way, way more use and respect than Marvel is willing to give her.