So, who do you think was a good Polaris writer? You are Very much contradicting yourself in your arguments.

Honestly, in my view, Gifted writers are the best writers of Lorna so far. I have issues with other aspects of the show, and if it were comic book version I would have big complaints about the pregnancy storyline. But as an AU, I feel it best captures the essence of who Lorna is (at least up to where I stopped watching).

After that, I’d say Jeff Parker in his use of her on Exiles. Another AU version. It’s a younger version, but within the younger version, he gets across a spunky playful nature. Lacks the trauma component, but I think Jeff did very well. Especially when he pulled in House of M stuff so we saw two versions of Lorna and Wanda, their team versions and their spoiled alter egos.

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After that, yet another AU version. Dennis Hopeless’ version in Secret Wars: House of M. She was once again pretty spunky and cool, she was smart and tactical, open-minded, and we even got a really cool teasing moment between her and the AU Black Cat.

Downside was that Magneto and Pietro were treated worse, and I don’t think that was necessary for Lorna to be her awesome self there. But it’s still a place where Lorna was treated great.

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After that, I finally get to a 616 depiction: Chuck Austen’s run in the 00s.

He had problems that were perfectly fair to complain about, both for other characters and even sometimes for Lorna. Yet, he still recognized her as her own character. He had an original plan of just marrying her off to Havok and discarding her, but when he actually looked at her, he slowly saw so much more.

Austen’s Uncanny X-Men #431 really showed off the stakes and toll of the Genoshan genocide. Uncanny X-Men #443 was such a perfect encapsulation of Lorna’s core while also emphasizing the aftermath of the Genoshan genocide and its effect on her.

Personally, these portions mean the most to me out of anything Lorna’s been in, but I’m not speaking just on “who had the best moments” or “who wrote what resonates with me the most on a personal level.” I’m speaking on treatment in entirety, weighing consistency and pros/cons. That places Austen’s version lower. It’s still best treatment of her in 616 thus far.

Also important to mention: the other cases cited don’t have Lorna’s Genoshan genocide history within them.

Bringing up important character history that’s been established in whatever universe she’s in matters, and thus far Austen’s really the only 616 writer that’s been willing to acknowledge such a huge thing happened to her. That, too, makes him better than all other 616 writers to date. 

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Marjorie Liu with Astonishing X-Men is the last one for me to cite. She had very few panels, but in those panels, she did a lot. She acknowledged Lorna’s history with Iceman as one of his love interests (albeit I feel it should’ve been more pronounced given she was his first) by her being there. She acknowledged Lorna’s time as Pestilence and that tying in with Gambit’s time as a Horseman of Apocalypse. She sort of acknowledged the Lorna and Nurse Annie history by having them together in one panel. 

I should note there may be other writers further in Lorna’s past that I’d say were great too, but I haven’t read every single issue featuring her.

After the past few writers, I believe a female writer would be the best bet for Lorna. Lorna’s consistent problem with recent writers seems to be male writers looking at her from a male POV instead of putting real effort into understanding her and looking at things from her POV.

With Peter David, until ANXF #7, he was focused on building Gambit up and wrote Lorna in ways meant to help do that. This hurt her a lot, because instead of sympathetic insight into struggles with leadership (with past experience kept in mind) or mental issues, we got a version of Lorna that randomly went blind raging or submissive depending on what played best to making Gambit look good.

With Bunn, it’s been focusing on Magneto and Havok, and using Lorna to build them up at the expense of any agency or value in her own right. Her past trauma and history with her father, and the feelings and intellect she’d possess from both, have been ignored to a point where it’s absurd. It’s more obvious if you look at scenes from Blue and mentally swap the roles of Lorna and Magneto, or Lorna and Havok.

I believe a female writer would be more likely to avoid that, by virtue of having seen how rampant such depictions are and not wanting to see it repeated yet again. There’s no guarantee a female writer wouldn’t have the same problems seen with David and Bunn, but I think it’s less likely given lived experience.

I hope this answers things, though I have to admit I don’t understand what you meant by me contradicting myself. Could you explain, if this didn’t cover it?

P.S. – Thanks for asking this question. It’s been a while since anyone asked me which writers I think did good or best by Lorna, so it’s been a while since I got to write something like this.

giant-size artist list !

giantsizezine:

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here all the artists to be featured in giant-size zine! 77 artists were chosen and they’re all bomb as hell! check out their tumblrs/ other social media!

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Just found out about this cool fan-made zine this afternoon! It’s artists drawing their favorite mutants.

Preorders start April 10, info will be available on the page or on its FAQ when preorders are open, and any money beyond printing/shipping costs will go to an LGBTQ organization called LOFT.

And yes, there will be a piece of Lorna; I found out cause the artist highlighted it on Twitter. But good cause even without that factor!

Question: Bunn, Treatment of Polaris

I have a question.

I’ve leveled complaints about Bunn and his treatment of Polaris/Lorna Dane for several months. I’ve really picked up with it in the past month, due to Blue #23.

But I’m not getting any pushback. Even when I’ve complained about the worst stuff I’ve ever seen for any character in anything, I’ve had at least some tiny shred of pushback. And a few months back, I did have that with Bunn. I haven’t had it lately though. I’ve only seen people who also see problems with what Bunn’s doing, or who agree with what I’ve been saying.

So my question is this: do you disagree with my complaints? Do you think Bunn’s doing a good or great job with Polaris?

I’m not looking for an argument with this post. I’m not requesting an explanation, though you can give one if you want. I just want to know if there’s support for how he’s treating Lorna that hasn’t been said or that I’m not seeing.

I will admit in advance that if reasons are given, I might say something about those reasons, but it would very likely be in a new post.

Oh hey look, the cover for an upcoming Blue issue reinforces every bad thing I’ve said about Bunn on his view and treatment of Polaris, and adds more weight to arguments he can’t write women at all.

Remember: the cover of a comic is almost always a reflection of the story contained within. They’re trying to sell you on the story with it.

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On this cover, the action is Magneto attacking Havok. The apparent cause? The passive, weak, defeated Polaris sitting right there.

No agency. No expression. Not even conscious. On this cover, Lorna exists exclusively to be a trophy for Magneto and Havok to fight over. Lorna isn’t a character on this cover. She’s an object for the stories of men.

By itself, this cover could get a pass. If Bunn had a pattern of treating Lorna incredibly well, then we could dismiss this cover as either the artist or the editor misrepresenting the story.

But we can’t do that. Because it fits Bunn’s pattern of poor treatment toward Lorna. It reinforces Bunn’s perception of Lorna as worthless as anything other than an object in the stories of men, primarily Magneto and Havok.

The story inside will match the cover. As such, if you’re still reading Blue and you’re a fan of Lorna (or female characters as a whole), I strongly suggest skipping #28 when it comes out. At least until you see what people say about it online. You’ll thank me later.