Marvel Mighty Heroes And Trends International On Removing X-Men Characters – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

halcyonstarfish:

salarta:

I’m starting to think it might be better to share news from Bleeding Cool rather than places like CBR whenever possible. Bleeding Cool actually cares enough about these franchises and characters to raise questions and make pertinent observations about both good AND bad corporate behavior.

CBR would never jeopardize their good standing with Marvel by being too critical of the company’s business practices. They rely too much on exclusive interviews and receiving early promotional content.

Yep, CBR’s really more of just another mouthpiece for the big two companies than an actual site anymore. It’s even spilled into their forums and what discussions they will and won’t allow. If the reaction to bad behavior is tame enough it can be ignored, it’s allowed, but if there’s a serious risk to sales or reputation for bad actors on the line, they step in.

They get exclusive interviews and the like, but they sacrificed any integrity they had as a separate entity in their own right to secure that exclusive content.

Marvel Mighty Heroes And Trends International On Removing X-Men Characters – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

Marvel Mighty Heroes And Trends International On Removing X-Men Characters – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

I’m starting to think it might be better to share news from Bleeding Cool rather than places like CBR whenever possible. Bleeding Cool actually cares enough about these franchises and characters to raise questions and make pertinent observations about both good AND bad corporate behavior.

Marvel Mighty Heroes And Trends International On Removing X-Men Characters – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

queen-wanda-maximoff:

ssalarta:

queen-wanda-maximoff:

So, I’m confuse with the new retcon. That’s mean Wanda and Pietro aren’t sibilings of Lorna Done? And who the hell is their “new sister”, Lumi? I mean, I like her design but Superspeed and Chaos Magic at the same time?

Long story short, Disney and Marvel…

Ah, in that case I’m sorry for horning in. I’ve heard from others what’s going on, but since I’m not reading any of that, I’ll stay out of it and let someone that knows better answer.

Marvel Confirms Scarlet Witch And Quicksilver Are No Longer Mutants

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

thehollowprince:

And this is why I don’t really read comics anymore.  Every time you turn around, some editor or writer has changed some backstory of the characters, so you spend years, decades even, thinking this one thing, only for them to tell you otherwise on a whim, then to change it back years later.

Disney and Marvel are doing it because they’re pissy about Fox owning the film rights to the X-Men franchise.

It’s understandable not to make them mutants or Magneto’s kids in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Fox owns the film rights and Disney and Marvel aren’t obligated to hash things out with Fox just to get Wanda and Pietro in there. It’s another thing when they force a retcon entirely because they’re dumb and greedy enough to think hurting the X-Men comics somehow hurts Fox in any way.

Most infamous retcons out there happened purely because some editor or writer wanted to do things differently, like what Quesada pulled with One More Day. This one’s because Disney and Marvel want more money, aren’t getting it, and decided ruining the comics is the way to go in response.

I find it strange how I don’t buy superhero comics anymore but still comment on them kinda like Alan moore lol

I don’t think it’s all that strange. We like the amazing potential of these characters and the worlds and concepts tied to them, but the companies that own them do not. It’s all about money to them. They’ll throw anything good under the bus if they (mistakenly) think it’ll net them a few more bucks somewhere down the line.

Marvel Confirms Scarlet Witch And Quicksilver Are No Longer Mutants

Marvel Confirms Scarlet Witch And Quicksilver Are No Longer Mutants

thehollowprince:

And this is why I don’t really read comics anymore.  Every time you turn around, some editor or writer has changed some backstory of the characters, so you spend years, decades even, thinking this one thing, only for them to tell you otherwise on a whim, then to change it back years later.

Disney and Marvel are doing it because they’re pissy about Fox owning the film rights to the X-Men franchise.

It’s understandable not to make them mutants or Magneto’s kids in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Fox owns the film rights and Disney and Marvel aren’t obligated to hash things out with Fox just to get Wanda and Pietro in there. It’s another thing when they force a retcon entirely because they’re dumb and greedy enough to think hurting the X-Men comics somehow hurts Fox in any way.

Most infamous retcons out there happened purely because some editor or writer wanted to do things differently, like what Quesada pulled with One More Day. This one’s because Disney and Marvel want more money, aren’t getting it, and decided ruining the comics is the way to go in response.

Marvel Confirms Scarlet Witch And Quicksilver Are No Longer Mutants

Ya know…i remember before “The Avengers” came out and Marvel fans used to be decent people…

comingupforblair:

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

kurt-banged-her:

ravingsofanundiscoveredgenius:

richard-is-bored:

Now most of them are annoying wank-stains who get all upset when Jason Momoa says “Fuck Marvel” yet cheer RDJ on when he says the equivalent to DC Comics. And they also have an annoying…

DC gets so much shit for starting Their universe later but I now think it was the best thing for Them as it lets Them see and avoid all of the mistakes Marvel has made that are now starting to come back and bite Them. The studio’s habit of isolating exceptionally talented directors like Edgar Wright is also going to seriously hurt Them, especially compared to DC’s filmmaker driven approach.

There are things DC absolutely deserve to get shit for, of course.

One is how they’ve changed Harley Quinn. There’s nothing of her harlequin theme anymore, the codename applies as well to her as changing Batman’s theme to chickens and still calling him Batman. It’s even worse for two other reasons: DC made the change solely because they saw the interest in Harley’s look in the Arkham Asylum game, and it actually makes her look more like a female Joker wannabe than her own character.

Second is Man of Steel. Like what they pulled on Harley Quinn, Man of Steel was the company going “Well, people like the Dark Knight films, let’s throw away everything that makes Superman into Superman except the powers and alien origin and put that out there.” There’s no respect for the character and franchise themselves, only an assumption that they need to be radically redefined all because Bryan Singer screwed up what was at the time the only attempt made at a Superman movie in 20 years.

Third, their constant excuses and putting off of female-focused films. This is a huge problem Marvel has too, but the key difference is that unlike Marvel, DC has an unquestionably iconic female superhero in Wonder Woman that’s considered equal or just very slightly below Superman and Batman in terms of place in the DC pantheon. DC Comics put out animated films for both Green Lantern and Wonder Woman, both films sold roughly the same (though I think Wonder Woman got better reception), and yet DC Comics went on to make excuses for the Green Lantern animated film and made a Green Lantern live-action film while claiming the Wonder Woman animated film did too poorly to justify a live-action film.

Both DC and Marvel have tons of shit wrong with them. The only real plus marks I can think of for DC are that they’re finally listening to some extent when it comes to Wonder Woman, and the changes they make aren’t a deliberate attempt to ruin franchises or characters over not making enough money like Marvel’s doing to the X-Men and Fantastic Four.

Ya know…i remember before “The Avengers” came out and Marvel fans used to be decent people…

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

Hello. I’d like to write a little something.

Joss Whedon deleted his Twitter account today. From what I can gather, it’s because of a lot of harassment and death threats he’s received, and Twitter’s continuing inability to stop such behavior.

There are at least two groups I’m aware of that are…

Just saying Whedon has a History of Anti-ziganism and Racism so can you at least acknowledge HE is to blame for that.

I don’t recall ever seeing such out of him in the past. I’ve only seen BtVS, Angel and his two Avengers films. Within those, what comes to mind are Principal Wood and Kendra in BtVS and Charles Gunn in Angel as major characters, and Jenny Calendar and the gypsy curse. Could’ve used more representation, of course, but I don’t recall any of that being hateful or negative.

However, it’s also important to note there as well that he wasn’t the only one involved, which could easily translate into “the execs above him caused the bad developments” or “his co-creators that were around him during those shows are responsible for the good bits.”

That said, I’m definitely disappointed and a little annoyed that Whedon both didn’t use Polaris and created Agent Brand as a green-haired character during his X-Men run.

the word “Gypsy” is a slur don’t use it see there’s an example of Anti-Ziganism. Also Firefly was about Chinese culture and yet never hired a chinese person to speak at all if he’s the common factor between all of this it’s pretty obvious he is racist.

Also he’s never wrote women of colour in a positive way there’s loads more examples of him being racist but I’m not pointing them out today.

I don’t condone any death threats he received (I doubt he recieved any anyhow I think he just deleted it due to Black Widow backlash) I’m just saying he is to blame and people have a right to criticise him for all the shitty things he’s done.

I was not aware “gypsy” is a slur, thanks for informing me. I won’t use it from here on out.

Firefly not hiring a Chinese person with Firefly based on Chinese culture is something I very much understand complaining about, but not to the point of saying “Yeah, the guy who runs the show is a horrible racist and he’s doing it all on purpose.”

Also keep in mind, Firefly came out in 2002. That may not sound like a long time, but a LOT has changed culturally since then. Jokes at the expense of transgender people are rightly shunned. There’s a huge push for traditionally white straight male characters to have one or more of those aspects changed in pop culture.

The first Fantastic Four film from Fox came out in 2005, and fanboys and fangirls bitched up such a storm about Jessica Alba taking on a role “for a white woman” that Fox made Jessica Alba’s eyes blue in the second film to try to appease fan complaints. Today, Fox is putting out the new Fantastic Four with a black Johnny Storm and they’re getting praised for it.

Things that are bad today were not bad 10 years ago. We can’t always judge a person today by the things they said and did a decade ago. Culture changes, people change, and it’s moving faster and faster.

Now we CAN judge by the past if we have nothing we can look at to suggest they’ve gotten any better. It’s even more damning if they’ve gotten worse. Motomu Toriyama at Squeenix is a good example of someone who’s gotten worse with his sexism to the point it can be called misogyny. He ruined Yuna, Rikku and Lulu with Final Fantasy X-2, then nearly 10 years later he turned Aya Brea into a sexist madman’s play toy with 3rd Birthday.

But with Joss Whedon, from what I’ve seen his mistakes can be chalked up as ignorance of the time, and it can be reasonable assumed he’s gotten better since then.

Also, I have no problem at all with people complaining about or criticizing Joss Whedon. That’s fine. It’s when it goes into harassment and death threats that it’s a problem. As long as you condemn such behavior, I’m cool with whatever you want to say. 🙂

In 2015 he still whitewashed two Romani Jewish characters, he refuses to learn or even do anything so his behaviour is the same as it was a decade ago.

Again, Disney and Marvel are to blame for that one.

If Disney and Marvel had not forced the retcon of Wanda and Pietro out of being Magneto’s kids in the comics, I would have said it might be Joss Whedon or Kevin Feige’s fault. Because they forced the retcon, the companies as a whole are to blame.

Even if we were to assume Whedon is definitely to blame, even if we had definitive proof to back it up, Marvel has such totalitarian control over the creative direction of its films that they would and could have demanded Whedon incorporate their Romani Jewish background no matter what he thinks or feels. The fact Disney and Marvel not only had that in the films but pushed it into the comics themselves is proof of just how shitty Disney and Marvel are once their film rights spat with Fox comes into the mix.

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

peppermonster:

salarta:

Hello. I’d like to write a little something.

Joss Whedon deleted his Twitter account today. From what I can gather, it’s because of a lot of harassment and death threats he’s received, and Twitter’s continuing inability to stop such behavior.

There are at least two groups I’m aware of that are…

THIS.

And to the scumbag bullies on tumblr laughing at and mocking him for leaving twitter, SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! You are scum. You are not feminists. You are trash.

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

Hello. I’d like to write a little something.

Joss Whedon deleted his Twitter account today. From what I can gather, it’s because of a lot of harassment and death threats he’s received, and Twitter’s continuing inability to stop such behavior.

There are at least two groups I’m aware of that are…

Just saying Whedon has a History of Anti-ziganism and Racism so can you at least acknowledge HE is to blame for that.

I don’t recall ever seeing such out of him in the past. I’ve only seen BtVS, Angel and his two Avengers films. Within those, what comes to mind are Principal Wood and Kendra in BtVS and Charles Gunn in Angel as major characters, and Jenny Calendar and the gypsy curse. Could’ve used more representation, of course, but I don’t recall any of that being hateful or negative.

However, it’s also important to note there as well that he wasn’t the only one involved, which could easily translate into “the execs above him caused the bad developments” or “his co-creators that were around him during those shows are responsible for the good bits.”

That said, I’m definitely disappointed and a little annoyed that Whedon both didn’t use Polaris and created Agent Brand as a green-haired character during his X-Men run.

the word “Gypsy” is a slur don’t use it see there’s an example of Anti-Ziganism. Also Firefly was about Chinese culture and yet never hired a chinese person to speak at all if he’s the common factor between all of this it’s pretty obvious he is racist.

Also he’s never wrote women of colour in a positive way there’s loads more examples of him being racist but I’m not pointing them out today.

I don’t condone any death threats he received (I doubt he recieved any anyhow I think he just deleted it due to Black Widow backlash) I’m just saying he is to blame and people have a right to criticise him for all the shitty things he’s done.

I was not aware “gypsy” is a slur, thanks for informing me. I won’t use it from here on out.

Firefly not hiring a Chinese person with Firefly based on Chinese culture is something I very much understand complaining about, but not to the point of saying “Yeah, the guy who runs the show is a horrible racist and he’s doing it all on purpose.”

Also keep in mind, Firefly came out in 2002. That may not sound like a long time, but a LOT has changed culturally since then. Jokes at the expense of transgender people are rightly shunned. There’s a huge push for traditionally white straight male characters to have one or more of those aspects changed in pop culture.

The first Fantastic Four film from Fox came out in 2005, and fanboys and fangirls bitched up such a storm about Jessica Alba taking on a role “for a white woman” that Fox made Jessica Alba’s eyes blue in the second film to try to appease fan complaints. Today, Fox is putting out the new Fantastic Four with a black Johnny Storm and they’re getting praised for it.

Things that are bad today were not bad 10 years ago. We can’t always judge a person today by the things they said and did a decade ago. Culture changes, people change, and it’s moving faster and faster.

Now we CAN judge by the past if we have nothing we can look at to suggest they’ve gotten any better. It’s even more damning if they’ve gotten worse. Motomu Toriyama at Squeenix is a good example of someone who’s gotten worse with his sexism to the point it can be called misogyny. He ruined Yuna, Rikku and Lulu with Final Fantasy X-2, then nearly 10 years later he turned Aya Brea into a sexist madman’s play toy with 3rd Birthday.

But with Joss Whedon, from what I’ve seen his mistakes can be chalked up as ignorance of the time, and it can be reasonably assumed he’s gotten better since then.

Also, I have no problem at all with people complaining about or criticizing Joss Whedon. That’s fine. It’s when it goes into harassment and death threats that it’s a problem. As long as you condemn such behavior, I’m cool with whatever you want to say. 🙂

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

Hello. I’d like to write a little something.

Joss Whedon deleted his Twitter account today. From what I can gather, it’s because of a lot of harassment and death threats he’s received, and Twitter’s continuing inability to stop such behavior.

There are at least two groups I’m aware of that are…

Just saying Whedon has a History of Anti-ziganism and Racism so can you at least acknowledge HE is to blame for that.

I don’t recall ever seeing such out of him in the past. I’ve only seen BtVS, Angel and his two Avengers films. Within those, what comes to mind are Principal Wood and Kendra in BtVS and Charles Gunn in Angel as major characters, and Jenny Calendar and the gypsy curse. Could’ve used more representation, of course, but I don’t recall any of that being hateful or negative.

However, it’s also important to note there as well that he wasn’t the only one involved, which could easily translate into “the execs above him caused the bad developments” or “his co-creators that were around him during those shows are responsible for the good bits.”

That said, I’m definitely disappointed and a little annoyed that Whedon both didn’t use Polaris and created Agent Brand as a green-haired character during his X-Men run.

Whedon, Twitter, Attacks