LIVE: X-Men and Inhumans Go To War In Death of X

There’s one specific bit to this I want to address, that’s the entire reason behind my post.

When asked if this is the start of putting the X-Men front-and-center again, Lowe said Marvel is always trying to make the best comics they can. Alonso added that questions like this, that presume that Marvel doesn’t care about the X-Men, are kind of insulting to the writers that work on these books — specifically citing the big “Avengers vs. X-Men” series from 2012 that put the team front and center. “We want to make all of our books popular, we didn’t lock ourselves in a room for three days because we’re disinterested in the X-Men,” said Alonso.

This doesn’t jive with Marvel’s behavior.

First of all, accusing Marvel of assigning writers to books and franchises that Marvel is actively trying to undermine isn’t insulting those writers in the slightest. Alonso is trying to play the angle of “these accusations suggest we’re seeing those writers as worse than others,” but there are two elements to this he’s trying to distract from.

The first: the writers don’t get nothing out of the deal. It’s a good way for Marvel to test those writers out before moving them over to the books Marvel actually values and wants to promote. In this scenario, Marvel is not saying those writers are bad; they’re saying those writers are promising, and here’s a chance to prove it.

The second: unlike the Fantastic Four comic book, Marvel can’t immediately shut down the X-Men without significant backlash. They need to take it slow. They know this. Right now, there are about 5 X-Men ongoing comic books… when there used to be 12-14 going at the same time. For that reason, assigning quality writers to the X-Men wouldn’t be a matter of “we think they suck so let’s cast them off over there.” It’d be a case of “we need to look like we still care, so let’s assign this great writer while we keep winding the franchise down.”

Now, moving on from Alonso’s attempted use of writer shields.

Alonso cites Avengers vs X-Men from 2012 as a sign of putting X-Men front and center, hoping that the reader doesn’t notice three things: 1) Marvel was still treating the X-Men as equally big as the Avengers back then, 2) the event was designed to take stuff away from the X-Men and give them to the Avengers, and 3) that event was four years ago.

He attempts to frame AvX like it was a very generous gesture. In reality, it was an opportunity to build up the Avengers as being powerful, excuse Wanda for M-Day (before using the Inhumans as the mutant-destroying scapegoat instead), and make key X-Men characters like Cyclops and Emma Frost look bad. And kill off Professor Xavier, by the way.

Axis continued this pattern. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver underwent a forced retcon to suddenly not be Magneto’s kids anymore, they framed Magneto killing Red Skull as a bad thing (releasing a “hate wave”) so Magneto could look worse, and they hijacked the mutant nation Genosha and Professor Xavier’s brain to use as plot devices that benefits the Avengers books via Red Skull.

In both cases, the mutants were framed as the bad guys or making things better for the bad guys. They got nothing in return for it, while the Avengers had radical new changes in the aftermath (e.g. Jane Foster as Thor).

Lastly, Alonso’s claims that they try to make the most of the X-Men and what they have to offer can very easily be defeated by looking at how they’ve treated Polaris.

During Avengers vs X-Men, they had Magneto, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver interact as family… but kept Polaris out of the mix, letting her serve only as a nameless cameo that Magneto ignores being mentally dominated by Emma Frost (despite Magneto coming to save her from space a month ago). If they really cared about the X-Men franchise and possibilities, they would’ve included Lorna, because she suffered immensely from M-Day. Because of M-Day, Lorna nearly let herself die from a Sentinel to try to reactivate her powers, got brainwashed and turned into Pestilence by Apocalypse, and had to go into space to escape an anti-Apocalypse cult… where she got tortured by Vulcan.

If Marvel truly wanted to address the consequences of Wanda’s actions and use the X-Men well, they would’ve used Lorna. They didn’t.

Meanwhile, during Axis, they refused to use Polaris. They went out of their way to try to make Enchantress look like Polaris, even tinting her hair green and Wanda’s red on one cover. They put out THAT cover months in advance… but the cover for All-New X-Factor #14, where Lorna and Wanda got to interact as sisters, was withheld by Marvel until the Friday before release.

Which brings me to the last detail that comes full circle to the attempted use of writer shields.

Alonso says it’s insulting to the writers to say Marvel is trying to kill the X-Men books. Yet, that’s exactly what they did to All-New X-Factor.

All-New X-Factor was the first time Polaris ever got to lead a team of her own. It was the first time she got to interact with her brother Pietro at length in a long time, and ANXF #14 was the first and only time she got to spend time with Wanda in over a decade.

Marvel didn’t promote it. Peter David had to do all the promotion himself. When Days of Future Past was in theaters, Marvel kept Pietro off the covers of ANXF. Ultimately, Marvel canceled All-New X-Factor after 20 issues, claiming sales were too low.

… But the Scarlet Witch solo is still running, with lower sales despite a lot more promotion. This presents Marvel’s blatant double standard where the X-Men franchise is concerned. For an X-Men book with no promotion, low 20,000s in sales is sufficient reason to cancel the book. For a book about an Avengers character with tons of promotion, upper 10,000s in sales is good enough to keep it running.

If Marvel wants people to believe they don’t have it out for the X-Men (and in my personal case, that they don’t have it out for Polaris), they have to do better than this. Their actions speak much louder than their words.

LIVE: X-Men and Inhumans Go To War In Death of X

Disney Will Close Avengers Alliance In A Month’s Time – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

Hey guys. Guess what? Before shutting this down, Marvel never added Polaris to the game.

They added Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, even Havok, but never Polaris. Despite many people wanting and asking for her. You could run a Google search, but this list provided by @therealsongbirddiamondback demonstrates this much better.

692 Votes: Silver Surfer

512 Votes: Namor

393 Votes: Blade

359 Votes: Nova

249 Votes: Professor X

215 Votes: Jubilee

209 Votes: Polaris

169 Votes: Winter Soldier/Bucky

165 Votes: Songbird

160 Votes: Sentry 

These were the top most wanted characters for Marvel Avengers Alliance. Polaris ranked 7th in the top ten of all Marvel characters not already in the game. Still no Polaris.

Is it any wonder that I have so little faith in Marvel and complain so much about them screwing Lorna over, when they do stuff like this?

Disney Will Close Avengers Alliance In A Month’s Time – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

X-Men ’92 (2016) #7 | Comics | Marvel.com

plavapticica:

@salarta – what do you think, is it too much to hope for Lorna to be in this one? (it comes out in late September so we have a while to wait)

I never watched more than one or two episodes of the 90s X-Men cartoon, and I don’t read X-Men ‘92, so I don’t know how closely it follows the cartoon (or where it picks up from, if it does).

Checking the Marvel wikia, I see the cartoon’s version of Lorna was Iceman’s girlfriend, and X-Factor with Havok in charge didn’t start out with Lorna in the team. That Lorna eventually broke up with Bobby, joined X-Factor, and got in relationship with Havok.

If it’s set before she joined X-Factor, then I doubt she’d be in it. If it’s set after, there’s a chance.

However, I also found that Abigail Brand was in at least issue #6, and got a huge presence out of it.

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/08/the-flaming-lips-guest-star-in-preview-of-x-men-92-6/

Marvel has always had infinitely more respect for Abigail Brand than they’ve ever had for Polaris after Claremont was through with her. It’s already rare for Marvel to care one iota about using Lorna and her potential. If they’re pushing Brand this hard, then I think it’s very unlikely Lorna will show up at all. Much like how people assume Magneto and Polaris can’t be on the same book because they have the same powers (despite not thinking that way for psychics or brawlers), the common attitude to green hair is that it’s not possible to have two women with it on the same book.

In sum: it’s possible that Lorna will be in it, but I think the chances are very low. Marvel has very little respect for her in the first place, and they’ve already given Brand a big platform on the book.

X-Men ’92 (2016) #7 | Comics | Marvel.com

Marvel Entertainment on Twitter

Hey guys. Remember my post about Marvel’s diversity track record from a few days ago? Well, about two hours ago, Marvel made a tweet to highlight Monica Rambeau. She was the character I focused on most other than Polaris to make my point.

One thing about this.

The video doesn’t mention Monica’s time as an Avengers leader. It only says she joined their ranks. Even the wikia entry for Monica acknowledges she had a stint of leadership. Notably, they emphasize her time in the Avengers with a picture that shows her behind Captain America.

So yeah. Marvel.

Marvel Entertainment on Twitter

X-Tinction Watch: 21 X-Men Missing In Action

I have some things to say about this, and as always, they tie into Polaris and how Marvel often ignores, and occasionally outright undermines her.

A list of X-Men characters missing in action and lacking in any recent activity is a good thing to have. I’ve always said, Marvel has a huge roster of characters they could work with, and it’s annoying to see Marvel fail to use what it has. There is no good reason to create an all new character to fill a role, or radically change an existing character to fill it, if you have a character that’s already perfect for it (or more importantly, was specifically created for that role at one time).

Yet, to some extent, a list like this – and Polaris not being on it – implies to me that I’m supposed to think Lorna is lucky and stop complaining. Note: I am NOT saying that was the writer’s intent. I highly doubt it was. However, it presents a potential argument I feel I need to address anyway.

The best way I can think of for how to address it, is by going through certain characters on this list to highlight how they’ve had it much better than Polaris. I’ll need to establish what Lorna’s had as a baseline.

Polaris

Comic Books: Leader for 20 issues of All-New X-Factor, 2014, only one year.

Cartoons: Meaningful role in Wolverine and the X-Men, for one season.

Video Games: Two playable appearances, but no meaningful story.

Film/TV: Nothing.

And now, for the others. Please correct me if I am wrong about something.

Multiple Man

Comic Books: Leader of X-Factor for a LONG time.

Cartoons: Meaningful role in X-Men: Evolution, appearance in WatXM.

Video Games: At least 3 notable story appearances.

Film/TV: One film role.

Blink

Comic Books: Leader of Exiles, her own team that lasted for nearly 10 years.

Cartoons: Very minor roles.

Video Games: Nothing.

Film/TV: Meaningful film role in X-Men: Days of Future Past.

Banshee

Comic Books: Co-team leader of Generation X alongside Emma Frost, which lasted for 7 years.

Cartoons: Meaningful role in X-Men animated series.

Video Games: Minor appearance in one game.

Film/TV: Two major film roles (one admittedly poor though), with Generation X and Days of Future Past.

Spiral

Comic Books: Many meaningful villain roles, including membership in Sisterhood of Mutants (villains usually don’t get comics dedicated to them alone or as a leader, after all)

Cartoons: Meaningful roles in X-Men animated series and WatXM.

Video Games: Two playable appearances, a meaningful NPC appearance.

Film/TV: Nothing.

Dani Moonstar

Comic Books: Mentor character for a New Mutants team, from 2003 to 2008.

Cartoons: Meaningful role in episode of X-Men: Evolution.

Video Games: Playable in Marvel Heroes.

Film/TV: Nothing.

Naturally, I’m not going to go through every single character on a list of 21, but I think digging into these 5 in comparison to Lorna makes my point.

The characters on that list from CBR may be missing in action for 2-3 years, but they have more notable past use to offset their absence than Lorna’s ever had. They’ve had long, meaningful tenures as team leaders. They’ve had multiple video game or cartoon roles. They’ve had film and TV appearances.

I recognize the CBR writer’s intent with his article had nothing to do with Polaris at all, and that his primary criteria appears to be characters with 2+ years of no appearances.

Yet, as a result of the opportunities those characters received in the past, the 8 months and counting that Lorna’s been in limbo in the comics count for a hell of a lot more. If Marvel had made real use of Lorna’s potential and promoted it in the past, the situation would be much different. But they didn’t.

X-Tinction Watch: 21 X-Men Missing In Action

SDCC: “Batman: The Killing Joke” Screenwriter Explains Controversial Sex Scene

“The thing about this is that it’s controversial, so we added more controversy,” explained Azzarello. “I think she is stronger than the men in her life in this story. She controls the men in her life in this story.”

“They both make mistakes, but she’s the one who decides, ‘I have to stop. There’s a problem here, and I need to step away from this,’” Liu explained. “I think that comes from an emotional strength. I think she makes the decisions that strong people make.”

“She comes off as a stronger character at the end of that arc,” Azzarello agreed.

Pfft yeah sure. Suuuure. Turning Batgirl and Batman’s relationship to a sexual one is about showing she’s “stronger” and “controls the men in her life” in a story that’s all about how Joker being a monster and shooting her makes the men feel terribad.

I don’t think these guys understand what’s wrong with this picture. Making Batgirl into a bigger prize for the men to feel a sense of loss over isn’t in any way making Batgirl a strong, more fleshed out character. All it’s doing is further establishing the idea that Batgirl’s only value is in her relationships with men, not in who she is as her own character.

Comparison point here. I’ve complained a lot about Capcom’s poor treatment of Jill and Claire in the Resident Evil franchise over the past decade. One of the BIG things I’ve pointed out as a major problem is Jill’s treatment in Resident Evil 5.

In Resident Evil 5, we find out Jill Valentine was tormented and abused horribly by Albert Wesker. For two years, her body was used to make the worst biohazard ever (after a decade of her fighting to STOP biohazards), and then she was body-controlled into murdering her friends at the BSAA and serving Wesker’s interests.

When she finally broke free of Wesker’s control, she outright says she was aware the whole time. She had no control of her body or her actions, and she had to suffer through being used to do horrible things. And you know what all that was done to build up to?

Chris Redfield’s “suffering” over seeing Jill in that state.

The trauma and suffering Jill endured during those two years is brushed aside like a trivial detail. She doesn’t get to fight Wesker for some redemption. In fact, she’s written as “passing the torch” of being Chris’ partner to Sheva, and even tosses a rocket launcher to Chris and Sheva at the end so THEY can finish Wesker off while she just stands back and watches with a smile.

It was all about Chris, the big burly manly man getting to react to what happened to Jill, and then just shrugging it off once the moment passed.

That’s what DC did to Batgirl with the Killing Joke animated film. They doubled down on the notion that what Batgirl suffers through should be seen as important because, oh golly gee, she banged Batman.

SDCC: “Batman: The Killing Joke” Screenwriter Explains Controversial Sex Scene

Marvel’s Death Of X Panel At San Diego Comic Con – “Don’t Listen To Bleeding Cool” – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

The important part.

Polaris will pop up again according to Bunn.

Before I continue, I want to point out that ComicBookResources decided to leave this part out of their article. Naturally, they had no problem with mentioning Havok, though.

I should be glad that Bunn said this, but in all honesty, I don’t trust Marvel. They’ve repeatedly ignored, wasted or deliberately undermined Lorna’s potential, and they have a habit of arbitrarily changing plans. Bunn may have something in mind for her still, but until it’s actually in the solicits, on a cover, on comic book pages, it’s not the real deal. Someone at Marvel could call Bunn up tomorrow and tell him to replace Lorna with some other random character in whatever scripts he’s written.

Until there’s something concrete to back up the assurances, I’m going to assume that Marvel’s thrown Lorna into limbo and intends to keep her there indefinitely.

Marvel’s Death Of X Panel At San Diego Comic Con – “Don’t Listen To Bleeding Cool” – Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movie, TV News

Marvel’s Comic Book Relaunch Lineup Leaked Ahead of Official Reveal

I’d just like to point out how this list doesn’t list any titles with the word “X-Men” in them. There are a lot of Spider-Man titles on the list, and a few with Spider-Man in the name, but the X-Men related titles listed thus far are Death of X, Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, and arguably the two Deadpool ones.

Note how they list Uncanny Inhumans, but not Uncanny X-Men. I am not saying the title will be canceled. I’m saying that this is another sign of Marvel trying to undermine the X-Men franchise, and promote Inhumans in its place.

Marvel’s Comic Book Relaunch Lineup Leaked Ahead of Official Reveal