No, I really, really won’t be saying that, @marvelentertainment. Know why? Because I know you. I know what you’re going to do. The fact Polaris is missing from this picture, and that Vision’s conveniently green-haired daughter is deliberately placed next to Magneto in this image, says all that needs saying.

The best you’ll get out of me is Make Mine X-Men Blue in 2017, because that’s the only place you’ll let Polaris be and the only place you’ll allow her existence to be acknowledged. Everything else, you can blame Tom Brevoort and all the others at his level or above that are letting their negative biases and corporate slapfests with Fox get in the way of what should be.

Let me know when you’re willing to actually support Polaris instead of doing crap like throwing her into forced limbo for two years or refusing to promote key issues for her. When you’re ready to do that, I might start to feel like there’s a reason to want Marvel stuff beyond her.

jimhensonreject:

jimhensonreject:

salarta:

marvelentertainment:

GENERATIONS – coming Summer 2017.

Congrats on excluding Polaris (and as a result her father Magneto) for absolutely no good reason other than bias against her yet again. You’re really doing a bang-up job of throwing away a gold mine of potential and character/relationship development for stupid reasons.

Excuse me while I avoid this event entirely and feel even further vindicated in deciding to stop supporting anything Disney or Marvel that doesn’t involve Polaris.

… It’s an event about legacy heroes that share a name why would Polaris be there

Ok I just read your post about why you think Polaris should be there and, while I see what you mean, I think marvel is just focusing on their recent legacy characters who are heroes and share a mantle. Polaris isn’t any of those things I think?

Didn’t see this reblog of the first reblog until I looked at the post’s notes field.

Wolverine had stints fluctuating between hero and antihero. This matches with Magneto’s current status. Although Magneto has been a villain, he is presently in the realm of hero. Likewise, Polaris has up to this point always been a hero, and only been a villain when mind-controlled or possessed.

I agree that the purpose of this event for Marvel is to promote certain characters and their forebears. However, Marvel has not been shy about using and promoting Magneto for things in the past – whether his own comic book solo, or Children’s Crusade, or Axis, etc.

So what’s different about the premise of this event compared to other events that included Magneto? The fact that it’s Polaris they’d have to promote as Magneto’s legacy.

In case what you read before didn’t explain it, let me explain it here: Tom Brevoort hates Polaris being Magneto’s daughter, and has a lot of personal negative bias toward Polaris in general.

Back around Avengers vs X-Men, he made up a convoluted excuse about “genetics breeding true” to try to justify his stance that Polaris shouldn’t be Magneto’s daughter, but Siryn somehow should get to be Banshee’s daughter still. Before that, he had a portrait from House of M redrawn to remove Polaris entirely.

Brevoort is the type of guy who, demand or interest be damned, will force his personal negative biases on what he’ll allow to be pursued and promoted at Marvel. The exclusion of Polaris and Magneto from this event is just one more incident in a long series of incidents I’ve witnessed firsthand across 8 years.

jimhensonreject:

salarta:

marvelentertainment:

GENERATIONS – coming Summer 2017.

Congrats on excluding Polaris (and as a result her father Magneto) for absolutely no good reason other than bias against her yet again. You’re really doing a bang-up job of throwing away a gold mine of potential and character/relationship development for stupid reasons.

Excuse me while I avoid this event entirely and feel even further vindicated in deciding to stop supporting anything Disney or Marvel that doesn’t involve Polaris.

… It’s an event about legacy heroes that share a name why would Polaris be there

The “share a name” argument is broken by Iron Man and Ironheart. Even if you try to get around it by saying only the Iron part matters, I can counter with a) Polaris used to have a codename of Magnetrix, and b) her tagline is Mistress of Magnetism, which coincides with Magneto’s tagline as Master of Magnetism.

There are other arguments made by other people. I have responses to all the ones I’ve heard so far. Polaris and Magneto are excluded purely because Brevoort and other people at his level or higher don’t like Polaris or want her to get much use or attention. I have a lot from the past 8 years I can readily cite to back that up.

salarta:

lordtimeblogposts:

salarta:

Hello.

I’m posting this for a reason.

I’m still highly pessimistic that Polaris is going to be allowed by Marvel to appear anywhere at all. I know the higher-ups at Marvel, people like Tom Brevoort, don’t want Lorna to get any use or attention at all. It’s why there’s no upcoming Generations book of her with Magneto.

That said.

Even with my pessimism, I can’t deny the very thin and unlikely possibility that the woman in the first page of this image could be Polaris.

The hair is light, but there’s an outside chance it could be a shade of green that’s so light, it looks white.

The hair appears to be turning into energy, something Lorna’s hair has done previously when she enters “high power mode” – especially during her time on Genosha.

Lorna has a history with the Shadow King. In the 80s, Shadow King used her as a gateway to come from the astral plane to the mortal plane. Psylocke was instrumental in severing the connection at the time.

Realistically? Once again, I think there’s a 99% chance that’s not Lorna. I know how badly Marvel wants to bury her and how much people like Brevoort hate her, even with people like Mark Paniccia and Cullen Bunn wanting to use her. It’s going to be some other character like Dagger or Dazzler, or some other random filler mutant.

But I still have to acknowledge possibilities when I see them, no matter how unlikely they may be when factoring in how badly Marvel treats her and always has treated her since the Claremont era.

Polaris is in x-men Blue, Cullen bunn yesterday
culllen bunn X-MEN BLUE #7 throws the team into Secret Empire! Get ready for some surprise characters to show up

Cover de Polaris art adams maybe n 8 with Polaris Emma Frost x-men????

Thanks for sharing, but I tracked the comment down to its origin on Twitter after I saw your post on CBR. There’s nothing to it to suggest any of the surprise characters are Lorna.

Not saying it won’t or can’t be. Just that Bunn hasn’t said or done anything backing the idea that any of the surprise characters will be Lorna. Paniccia teased the idea of an Art Adams inspired cover, yes, but that could easily turn out to be nothing more than a personal commission or a random variant cover (like the coming Jim Lee covers) with no connection to planned storylines.

I’ve learned to be pessimistic as a result of how Marvel’s treated Lorna and fans of her for the past 8 years. I used to look at every event and storyline and look for signs that maybe Lorna would be in it. Now I default to assuming Lorna is going to be excluded from everything until proven otherwise. I know too well how Marvel works to do otherwise.

Boom. There it is. When colors aren’t off due to room lighting, her hair’s clearly blonde rather than looking light green. I’m right again, as always.

lordtimeblogposts:

salarta:

Hello.

I’m posting this for a reason.

I’m still highly pessimistic that Polaris is going to be allowed by Marvel to appear anywhere at all. I know the higher-ups at Marvel, people like Tom Brevoort, don’t want Lorna to get any use or attention at all. It’s why there’s no upcoming Generations book of her with Magneto.

That said.

Even with my pessimism, I can’t deny the very thin and unlikely possibility that the woman in the first page of this image could be Polaris.

The hair is light, but there’s an outside chance it could be a shade of green that’s so light, it looks white.

The hair appears to be turning into energy, something Lorna’s hair has done previously when she enters “high power mode” – especially during her time on Genosha.

Lorna has a history with the Shadow King. In the 80s, Shadow King used her as a gateway to come from the astral plane to the mortal plane. Psylocke was instrumental in severing the connection at the time.

Realistically? Once again, I think there’s a 99% chance that’s not Lorna. I know how badly Marvel wants to bury her and how much people like Brevoort hate her, even with people like Mark Paniccia and Cullen Bunn wanting to use her. It’s going to be some other character like Dagger or Dazzler, or some other random filler mutant.

But I still have to acknowledge possibilities when I see them, no matter how unlikely they may be when factoring in how badly Marvel treats her and always has treated her since the Claremont era.

Polaris is in x-men Blue, Cullen bunn yesterday
culllen bunn X-MEN BLUE #7 throws the team into Secret Empire! Get ready for some surprise characters to show up

Cover de Polaris art adams maybe n 8 with Polaris Emma Frost x-men????

Thanks for sharing, but I tracked the comment down to its origin on Twitter after I saw your post on CBR. There’s nothing to it to suggest any of the surprise characters are Lorna.

Not saying it won’t or can’t be. Just that Bunn hasn’t said or done anything backing the idea that any of the surprise characters will be Lorna. Paniccia teased the idea of an Art Adams inspired cover, yes, but that could easily turn out to be nothing more than a personal commission or a random variant cover (like the coming Jim Lee covers) with no connection to planned storylines.

I’ve learned to be pessimistic as a result of how Marvel’s treated Lorna and fans of her for the past 8 years. I used to look at every event and storyline and look for signs that maybe Lorna would be in it. Now I default to assuming Lorna is going to be excluded from everything until proven otherwise. I know too well how Marvel works to do otherwise.