Marvel The Gifted fox Polaris in Prison 1×02 and Press Day
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Dallas Fan Days is coming up in October. My bff and I are going as Polaris and Scarlet Witch. Super excited! Any tips are welcome. This is my first time making headpieces. I just used foam board, paper, paint and will be sealing it with Mod Podge later on.
Tagging in @peppermonster cause she’s the first person I think of regarding cosplay and cosplay tips. But also for any cosplayers that might see this from my reblog!

Polaris
She looks like she has a scar on her eye, which is an interesting idea I never thought of before.

Marvel Swimsuit Special Circa1994.
Dr. Stevens (Dr. Strange’s magic clone – long story) by Tom Morgan & Tom Smith
Comic Book Fandom Problem: Character Competition and Role/Panel Hoarding
At this point, I’m both a little experienced but still relatively new when it comes to comic book issues. I only really got into any comics consistently after I discovered Polaris from X-Men. I’ve been reading stuff with her since 2009, but it’s sporadic for her to get use.
In that time, I’ve noticed a lot of specific overall problems with “hardcore” comic book culture. This post is about the specific problem of “panel hoarding” and treating character use and presence like some kind of competition.
At its base, it goes to fanboy one-upsmanship. It’s the “my favorite superhero can beat your favorite superhero” thinking. A good example is how Frank Miller basically made Dark Knight Returns all about how great Batman supposedly is, to a point where Superman was written poorly so Batman could mop the floor with him.
Let’s really look at this. Why do these characters have to fight at all? If they fight, why does one have to be written poorly for the sake of the other? Why can’t a fight between them give both characters admirable qualities, with the loser losing the fight for perfectly good reasons?
When you get to the bottom of this stuff, this sort of behavior isn’t merely about fandom or wanting good exciting stories. This is ultimately about dominance and power. The people who insist their favorite character has to be on top and win everything are saying it cause they want their favorite character to be in a dominant position, and their fandom, and themselves, along with the character. It’s not really about the character. It’s not about good stories. It’s all about ego.
One personal example. In Secret Wars House of M, Polaris and Quicksilver fought. Lorna was depicted in that as a character that scared Pietro with her power, with Pietro only winning because of a surprise attack on Lorna not from Pietro. I didn’t like that either. Pietro was depicted very poorly to make Lorna look better.
This brand “dominance fight” was not needed. It’s a staple of comic books that some people blinded by egotistical desires think is a good thing. It’s not. Poor writing is poor writing, and everyone loses. With writing that treats both characters well, we could have seen some really interesting nuance to their genuine points of view. We could have seen some creativity for use of powers. Instead, Quicksilver was a bad caricature of himself, and that just pisses off fans of the character.
Another example. X-Men Blue recently had Polaris and Havok fight. I saw quite a few people liked that, and were excited to see Polaris beat Havok in that scenario. I wasn’t. I’m a Polaris fan. I consider her my absolute favorite character right now in anything. I wasn’t happy about Lorna interacting with Havok in any sense, including this sort of thing.
I have very detailed reasons, tied to Polaris’ character history, for why I don’t want her interacting with Havok. I won’t go into them here. It’s a very specific and special issue tied only to Havok. My point here is, this “dominance fight” wasn’t needed either. We could’ve had panels that focused on something entirely different. Lorna could have had an argument with Emma about mutants, for example.
Now, for a problem that’s not the same as above but closely connected: panel/role hoarding.
Comic books have a loooooot of characters available. Most characters are heavily underused in favor of ones that have been heavily promoted across decades. Here’s the problem: characters that can fit a niche are often ignored in favor of inserting those traits into “popular” characters where they don’t belong.
Sometimes, fans of a character think only their character can fit a role. Or, out of desperation to either get their favorite into a prime position or keep them there, fans will refuse to acknowledge other characters having any kind of meaningful stake in a storyline or event. They may even badmouth and try to diminish the character’s value to make that happen.
This is another dominance play. This is all ego and selfishness talking, and it’s a problem specific to comic books.
The “logic” of this attitude is that if you let other characters occupy the same or similar role, or have panel time too, that hurts your favorite character. That “undermines” your favorite character’s “standing” in the role and supposedly keeps them from getting much use.
This “logic” is a huge mistake. Even when taking on the same role, two characters are not going to think and behave the exact same way. They will have disagreements. They will have nuance. In some cases, the base role could split into more than one direction. If you have only one person in the role, you either lose all except one direction, or the one character allowed to have the role becomes a disgusting mess of poor characterization that ends up looking terrible to most people.
But when you acknowledge other characters’ worth and let them be involved? Your favorite character actually benefits. Maybe you lose some panel time for the character. Sure. The lost panel time is more than made up for by much better writing. The two (or more) characters can interact, develop associations, common ground. In the future, the already established connection can lead to amazing new stories that never would have been possible without the connection.
For this example, I have Scarlet Witch.
Brevoort at Marvel said a lot of negative things about Polaris several years ago. They seemed to be mainly fueled by the idea that Magneto can have only one daughter, and at the time, he wanted that sole daughter to be Scarlet Witch.
This was a mistake. There is a lot of interest in the idea of Polaris and Scarlet Witch spending time together as sisters. They’ve both dealt with mental issues. Lorna suffered from M-Day, and Wanda has yet to have a redemption arc/story that most X-Men fans accept. They would have common ground of being Magneto’s daughters, but that connection makes them closer and gives them opportunities to have interesting stories together. Brevoort had the belief that only one daughter can exist, because his focus was exclusively on the role of “Magneto’s daughter,” as if it’s a coveted title only one can have. It blinded him to what they can accomplish together because they both have the same role.
Later, after Marvel forced a retcon that made Scarlet Witch (and Quicksilver) no longer Magneto’s daughter, they tried to do a solo comic book for her. The book failed. Its main reason for failing was because Marvel had severed most of her meaningful relationships – including with Magneto and Polaris. Some thought that completely separating her from those relationships would be good for her prestige, but it wasn’t. Losing those relationships denied her the chance to interact with characters that could show her best qualities.
Same applies to any role situation. If you’re a real fan of a character, you want what’s best for the character. What’s best for the character is good writing, not oodles of appearances that all make the character look horrible just for the sake of exposure. If some panel time has to be sacrificed to get good writing, then so be it.
Comic book fandom is rife with these toxic attitudes. There are ways of doing things so ingrained that some fans mistakenly think they have to go along with the flow, or that what they know is a “tradition” that must be upheld. Some have also become so accustomed to those attitudes that it’s become a deeply ingrained part of who they are. They don’t want to break those habits and may refuse to see anything wrong with them.
But seeing the problem is the first step to better comics fandom, and eventually better comics as a whole.
Anyone know shit about xmen?
I’m trying real hard to come up with patches for a Lorna Dane punk cosplay. And I am definitely running out of ideas and don’t know what to do for a back patch
I still haven’t been able to think of any other patches, so I’m just reblogging in case anyone else can think of some. House of M logo is really the only one I can think of right now.
X-Men Blue #11 Thoughts
It’s that time again. I’m going broader this time. Saying thoughts about the book as a whole too.
In all honesty, I’m pretty bored with the book. The primary reason I read it is because Polaris is on it.
There’s just flat out too much emphasis on alternate universe characters. Way, way, way too much. Bunn takes extra time to explain who these characters are this time, but it doesn’t really matter. Most people are going to think there’s no real point cause they aren’t going to matter after Blue. Just look at the three AU mutants that showed up on All-New X-Factor #2, as part of Quicksilver’s story. If they’ve been up to anything since 2014, I have no idea what it even is.
In the hierarchy of comic book characters, AU characters are considered pointless unless you’re really deeply committed to a specific character. They’re not the “real,” 616 versions of these characters.They’re going to go away and be completely irrelevant some day. Rachel Grey/Summers works because she’s the child of two core X-Men, there’s no 616 counterpart to her, and she was one of the early ones. Characters like this Colossus knight, Blood Storm and Jimmy don’t have that.
AU characters work for brief arcs. They work for entirely self-contained stories. They don’t work as the core theme of a committed ongoing book. They’re a pretty good example of the pitfalls of being a hardcore fan and making comics. Things you geek about may be things casual readers don‘t really care about.
It also pisses off a LOT of people who are fans of characters that aren’t getting used. All these storylines about AU characters are storylines that COULD have been traded for ones featuring characters that are largely ignored. As a Polaris fan, if she wasn’t being used in any comics and this was happening, I’d be absolutely pissed. I’d be pointing at X-Men Blue as evidence of Marvel being so awful that they think even temporary AU characters are more deserving of use.
If this looks in any way like an attack on X-Men Blue, then I just want to emphasize that’s not my intent. I’m just trying to explain what a lot of fans must be thinking and feeling even if they don’t outright say it. The first step to making sure things work out well is to know where a problem is so it can be fixed.
I also generally get the feeling Bunn is uncomfortable with the fluffy happy teen O5. I get the feeling he’s more comfortable with dark, rough, edgy characters and storylines, and he’s trying to bring more of that into the book cause it’s his natural element.
This isn’t a dig on him. All writers are more comfortable with some scenarios than others. It’s why a lot of writers fall back into old habits of how to treat characters, what storylines they pursue, etc. Bunn’s comfort area is dark and rough stuff. There’s nothing wrong with having a comfort area. But it does mean doing stuff outside it is more difficult, and there’s a tendency to try to bring in comfortable stuff to make it easier.
On to other things.
The Edgar Rice Burroughs reference is both good and bad. It’s a reference that makes sense for Jean Grey to make given her original time period. I get the impression Bunn is having fun with the writing there, and that’s always a good thing. On the other hand, it’s a reference most people aren’t going to catch. I actually had to look up who Edgar Rice Burroughs is to understand the reference, and I think I’m atypical in a willingness to do that. This is a case where I think a different reference, even if it was a modern one, would’ve worked better.
Jean Grey showing more variety with her powers is good here, between hallucinations and the TK bumpers. I know some people have complained about her not being creative enough with her powers. This issue showed she can do more than telepathy and throwing things around.
On that note, would just like to note as a Polaris fan that Lorna could do the same things if Marvel was willing to acknowledge the full extent of what can be done with electromagnetism. Just throwing that out there.
The line “lemonade from lemons.” Entirely personal thought horning in, I would’ve liked ‘demonade from demons’ more. There’s nothing wrong with the original line. It’s perfectly fine. I just felt it could’ve used some playfulness.
Also, Jean asking Scott what’s wrong toward the end. This is probably nitpicking. I know Jean explains about how they need to make mental partitions and all, and reading between the lines, I’m sure this was a sign of Jean setting one up to avoid picking up Scott’s thoughts. It still irked me and felt like she should’ve known anyway.
Now for a couple Polaris-specific things.
The vents (or whatever the word is) they’re in, I feel Lorna in particular has much more that she’d contribute to it given how much loss and pain she’s endured. In all honesty, I doubt that will be acknowledged. Everyone at Marvel likes to pretend she’s a white as snow Xavier type that’s never endured any trauma or suffering. I don’t know if it’s executive/editorial mandate (probably is) to ignore the core of who Lorna is, or if it’s various creative types doing it, but it’s annoying and I don’t expect it to change here. It’d be really nice for things to work otherwise.
As far as Lorna (and Magneto, and Danger) having been beaten by Madelyne Pryor and them, it’s fine here. Nothing wrong with characters getting beaten by other characters, and I appreciate that it happened off panel so there’s no arguments about it. But, general warning: Polaris (and the others, really) being beaten like this should be rare. Do it too much and it not only makes a mockery of the characters, but for this book, it raises the question of how they can even pretend to be in a position to mentor/teach the O5. Jean and Cyclops at least got out alive, after all. What do they have to teach the O5 if they can’t protect themselves and need rescuing all the time?
Lastly, Blood Storm. I’ll just get it out in the open: I know she’ll be sticking around. I hope Bunn is better about having Polaris and any version of Storm on the same team/book together than Claremont was. I’m a lot more open to Storm and Lorna interaction than with Havok. I’m willing to give it a shot cause the hate-a-thon got dropped after Claremont left, and more emphasis was put on Storm’s value in her own right than in tearing down Lorna to do it. But, I’m still cautious on this point.
All I’ve got to say for now.
My Views on Polaris/Lorna Dane
I have said quite a lot about Lorna over time. I’ve complained at length about Marvel treating her poorly, complained about any case where she’s depicted all wrong, talked about the potential she has with her powers or with certain story threads that were abandoned or haven’t been pursued.
What I don’t think I’ve done is post what I see in Lorna and what it is about her that draws so much of my interest and support. This is a post about those things.
If you know me, you also know I put a very heavy emphasis on heroic characters. Characters that inspire, that represent higher ideals, that never break under immense pressure.
At first, the things I’m about to emphasize about Lorna might look entirely opposite to what I’ve always shown the strongest interest in. I hope how she ties into all of that becomes much clearer by the end.
Above all, Polaris is a survivor. I love that. She survives. She goes through problem after problem after problem, and she feels it and lets herself feel it, but she always manages to rise above it. She’s a constant target for so much shit in the world yet she ultimately overcomes everything.
What first grabbed me so strongly about Lorna was this.


She survived Genosha. She felt the weight of every death, all that loss of life, what could have been. She felt it, and it drove her crazy.

But it didn’t stop her from fighting.

She used it to make herself fiercer, stronger, smarter, with an underlying determination to use her powers to make sure it never happened again. Her father, Magneto, had the Holocaust. This was her Holocaust. She was determined not to let anything like it happen again. And I learned it was guided by a long-held but too often ignored attitude of hers that supported mutants and mutant rights.

Then I looked back deeper, with the help of a lot of existing Polaris fans (including @jmc247), and found out more. I learned that she was created to be a very feminist character in a time when female characters in comics were generally looked down upon. She was among a wave to fix that.


At her core, she’s a feminist survivor who cares deeply about those who need protecting. She’s committed and uncompromising, willing to say and do things that are considered anywhere from rude to downright inflammatory. She understand the value of life and wants to preserve it, but she’s not afraid to attack, hurt or if necessary kill people who are willing to do the same to others.
She lived and relived over and over the deaths of millions of innocents due to hate, and it wasn’t just her own experience. She effectively absorbed the experiences of everyone around her that died on Genosha. She fights not for herself, and not to make sure nobody ends up like her, but for the millions who were slaughtered. That is the Lorna that resonates with me.
So, when I stopped looking at the past and started looking more closely at the present, at stuff like this:

And got frustrated. THEN I saw stuff like this:




And I got REALLY pissed off. Here’s this amazing character, created to be so much more, bearing so much potential, and it’s all just completely trashed and taken for granted. Everything she is and everything she can be is buried by decades and decades of poor treatment, and worse yet, that poor treatment is taken as the way she should be treated.
This is a badass woman that keeps getting beaten down and dragged through the mud in storylines and by Marvel itself, by people who don’t seem to understand one bit what they have and how much it really means.
As I looked deeper, I saw a woman who is so committed to mutants and staying strong that she even had a full-blown identity crisis and was willing to nearly get herself killed by a Sentinel just to try to get her powers back so she could try to make a difference again.

Other characters would’ve given up. Havok himself has given up multiple times, trying to run away to a civilian life (and because Marvel decided to suck, they dragged Lorna with him), insisting mutants shouldn’t be called mutants. Lorna was willing to die to be a mutant again and have the power to do something. She was willing to do that after the Genoshan massacre.
That’s how much standing up for mutants and being one meant to her. She witnessed and relived all those deaths, she knew how horrific death was… but at the end of the day, she came back.
She developed a philosophy of her own that has strong elements of Magneto’s and Xavier’s. Deadly force when needed, due to a compassionate heart that holds a burning rage any time injustice rears its ugly head.
And Marvel refuses to acknowledge it. They act like Genosha never happened to her. They act like she isn’t committed to mutant rights and mutant issues, or that she only cares about those things because of her dad and not from her own experiences. They act like she never had a speck of feminist thinking and attitude at any point in her existence. They act like wasn’t created to be so much more than the nobody character she got turned into over the span of decades.
That, more than anything, drives me. Over time, I’ve pushed for her to have an origin story (took over 40 years to get one), pushed for her to lead a team of her own (ditto), urged a reunion with her father, urged that she get to interact with her sister (Scarlet Witch) and brother (Quicksilver), and argued for an expansion of her powers. Those are all very important things that mean a hell of a lot. Despite Marvel sabotaging all of them, their actually happening is still important.
But ultimately, it all pales in comparison to what Marvel keeps not doing. They don’t delve into who Lorna is, what she’s done, what she can do.
Lorna is a special kind of hero. She starts with a lot of ideals, she suffers, but she never breaks. She’s never truly defeated.
When I think of everything Claremont wrote for her to hold her back, I think of how much she’s overcome. She overcame an infantilized tie to Havok. She overcame possession by Malice, and how Storm and the X-Men were presented as having no real desire to save her as she suffered within. She overcame further abuse by Zaladane flaunting dominance over her and stealing her powers. She overcame her “new powers” including a stupid as hell power to make her very existence cause hate and make random people hate her enough to want to kill her at the risk of their own lives.
Then, much later, she overcame the Genoshan massacre, the trauma, her power loss again. Everything.
It’s pretty clear Marvel doesn’t envision her as this tough and sympathetic persona, but it’s what she is. She suffered, didn’t break, and made herself stronger despite being stuck in a universe that seemed to practically conspire against her potential.
She’s a sympathetic heroic badass. She has more heart and zest for life than her father, she’s more vicious and uncompromising in her ideals than Xavier, and she’s overcome more than most characters while getting zero credit for having to do so largely under her own power.
That’s what I see in her. There are a lot of other things that build up to so much more, just like Lorna herself, but this is the core.




