kurt-banged-her:

golden-horses-like-pears said: It’s infuriating. Why are they serving us some Frankenstein Jean Grey-Wanda Maximoff mash up and telling us it’s 100% Grade A Scarlet Witch? I think they should pay us reparations.

yeah and don’t forget they basically turned Pietro into the Flash too just a white dude who gets his powers as a result of a science experiment.   

I don’t know what the “Frankenstein Jean Grey-Wanda Maximoff mash up” is about. If this is that random new blue woman that’s suddenly Wanda’s sister, it’s because Brevoort is trying to tear down interest in the sister relationship between Wanda and Lorna. It’s the same reason he tried, and failed, to co-opt the Lorna and Wanda color scheme to push a pairing of Wanda and Enchantress with this little picture:

Brevoort’s ploy there didn’t work. Most people mistook Enchantress for Polaris. Lorna fans like myself were obviously annoyed (as Brevoort expected and probably loved to incite) that Marvel pulled that while deliberately leaving Polaris out of an event she had a huge stake in, while Enchantress fans were annoyed by Marvel trying to make Enchantress look like she’s only good for looking like Polaris.

Brevoort had to come up with a different plan, so the blue woman is it.

Personally, I’ll admit I’m a tiny bit annoyed, but then I remember that this only means that worst case scenario, when Brevoort’s gone and people that actually love and respect these characters is in charge, the new blue woman, Wanda and Lorna will ALL be sisters (or near-sisters in the case of Lorna and the blue woman).

kurt-banged-her:

salarta:

kurt-banged-her:

Why is Marvel trying so hard to mess up Pietro and Wanda and force them into things they aren’t and trying to be like Hah Fox take that.

Marvel you do know they own the rights to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch too right? like they actually own the more interesting parts too and at the rate you’re going they’ll probably be better albeit still whitewashed.

Because they’re greedy and stupid, that’s why. Only explanation possible. They think they’re being master manipulators of business while clearly not understanding the most critical piece of the game: how fans and consumers react to their chess moves.

It’s sort of like how Capcom kept going on about the Call of Duty fanbase whilst making Resident Evil games except Marvel denies it like

“Ugh we didn’t retcon Pietro and Wanda’s parentage and ethnicity because of the movies we did it for the story! it’s just a coincidence that it’s happening in the movie as well”

“We aren’t rebooting the universe for the sake of the movies even though we laughed at DC for rebooting and here we are with our own Crisis”

Marvel denies it because they think:

1) They can get away with it.

2) Their fans and consumers are idiots that’ll believe absolutely anything they say.

Marvel is winning a lot of points right now not because of the films, but because of their diversity initiatives. Certain things like female Thor are improving their public image greatly, and for good reason, but they’re simultaneously sabotaging themselves by destroying the Fantastic Four and X-Men franchises.

Actions based on ego and greed always come back to bite the company, and often the individuals behind those actions, on the ass. Marvel is no different than any other company focused on creative IPs. Their comeuppance may come in a year, maybe it’ll take a whole decade, but it always happens. Obviously they’re already suffering by denying themselves the ability to make money and draw the interest of people they could have turned into fans of other IPs, but something even bigger will hit them as a result of mounting mistakes like this one on their part.

gaknar:

HO-ly crap Byrne really sexed up Sue and Reed’s embrace here. It looks like Reed is digging for the lost treasure of the Sierra Madre. It looks like he thinks he lost his keys in there. It looks like he’s checking her tonsils for kidney stones. (Fantastic Four #104 – Nov 1970 and X-Men: The Hidden Years #22 – Sept 2001)

I wish I could speak eloquently through my mouth while it’s eternally welded to another person’s mouth. All mine can do when I’m like that is go MPHPHFGGPGJGFFPH.

kurt-banged-her:

Why is Marvel trying so hard to mess up Pietro and Wanda and force them into things they aren’t and trying to be like Hah Fox take that.

Marvel you do know they own the rights to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch too right? like they actually own the more interesting parts too and at the rate you’re going they’ll probably be better albeit still whitewashed.

Because they’re greedy and stupid, that’s why. Only explanation possible. They think they’re being master manipulators of business while clearly not understanding the most critical piece of the game: how fans and consumers react to their chess moves.

Ya know…i remember before “The Avengers” came out and Marvel fans used to be decent people…

kurt-banged-her:

ravingsofanundiscoveredgenius:

richard-is-bored:

Now most of them are annoying wank-stains who get all upset when Jason Momoa says “Fuck Marvel” yet cheer RDJ on when he says the equivalent to DC Comics. And they also have an annoying habit of acting all “PC master race” when comparing Marvel to DC, acting like Marvel is this giant infallible god that rules the Comic Book verse and all other companies are tiny little peons to it that can’t compare.

I mean i hate it when DC comics can’t make a movie because they don’t have the rights to all of their characters- OH WAIT THEY DO!

The rivalry has been around for decades, but the Avengers brought in an influx of Marvelites who can’t accept Marvel isn’t the be all end all of superheroes.

Also as bad as DC is at times at least they don’t wank over their movies like their movie fanbase are the only ones they care about.

Whenever DC fucks up it’s because they fucked up, Marvel seems to fuck up with ulterior motives of shooting themselves in the foot to snub Fox.

I’m certain the Marvel thrill will start to die out when the Avengers films about the Infinity Gauntlet come out. The planned film slate is excessive, the tropes and characters of the cinematic universe are increasingly familiar, the cinematic universe competition will be fiercer, and the idea of a Marvel film as a two-parter is probably going to annoy the hell out of a lot of people.

People only handle the multi-part shit for book adaptations because there’s an actual end point and the films about those are self-contained, not spinning off into thousands of different mini-films like a giant cinematic clusterfuck.

Polaris Post-Secret Wars

Purely text post time.

I’ve been thinking about Secret Wars, the underlying intent, and what’s likely to happen when it’s all over. My expectation is that Secret Wars will act as a means to drastically cut down the X-Men franchise, likely reduce the number of active X-Men comics to somewhere between 1-5 books. It’s why a lot of the X-books talent is shifting over to other franchises.

Of course, as I realize this, I’m thinking about Polaris.

Marvel has a very, very long history of not really valuing or respecting Lorna, her background, or her potential. She started off as very much a feminist character for her time, with much the same role Storm later took. It was when Claremont took over with Storm that Lorna got increasingly diminished and sidelined.

Yet even with Claremont diminishing her, he still worked her into some of his major storylines that involved the core cast. She played a major role while possessed by Malice, even if it wasn’t really her, and when Zaladane came along, Zaladane stealing Lorna’s powers and later fighting Magneto meant Lorna was still a major focus.

Then, in the 90s, she was spun off into X-Factor alongside Havok (as has happened with most of her history). Regardless of any positive or negative opinions about X-Factor, X-Factor was away from the “core” franchise, and it’s been that way since the 90s. This means she was left out of anything major.

She started to make a comeback in the late 90s and early 00s with Genosha and House of M, and she was even a major character again on the core X-Men book of the time. She was back to participating in major X-Men storylines like becoming one of Apocalypse’s horsemen. Lorna was getting included in spinoff content too, such as Exiles, or the Wolverine and the X-Men cartoon.

Then, when Disney took over, they shoved her off into nowhere land again. She got sent out into space back before Marvel was out promoting Guardians of the Galaxy, and only got to return to Earth after all the major X-Men-focused events took place… without her.

That’s where she’s been ever since. She was only in Avengers vs X-Men as a nameless cameo, one that even resulted in Magneto acting horribly out of character. Outside that, she’s been relegated exclusively to X-Factor, with fleeting cameos in Liu’s Astonishing X-Men (still written awesome, but it was fleeting), a Hulk book, and it’s looking like the same will be true for the Magneto book judging by how we’ve seen no solicits or covers that focus on her.

I’m expecting that Cullen Bunn’s been told by higher-ups to either not use Polaris anymore, or drastically reduce her role from what he wants/wanted it to be.

Where am I going with this?

That’s the big question. Here’s my answer.

I think if Secret Wars is going to drastically diminish the X-Men franchise like I think it will, Marvel won’t use Polaris anymore at all.

Marvel doesn’t consider Lorna to be a “real” originating member of the X-Men. They don’t care about her enough to let her take part in events solely focused on the X-Men, such as Battle of the Atom. The opportunities she gets to interact with core X-Men characters are rare; if we don’t count Magneto, the last time was Five Miles South of the Universe, one of the last X-Men Legacy arcs Carey wrote.

This means if they have to pick and choose who to use, they’re not going to keep Polaris. She has a massive amount of potential, she’s an amazing character that many people love once they find out she exists, but it’s rare for Marvel to think she’s even worth letting people in on that. They did very little to promote All-New X-Factor. They did absolutely nothing to promote ANXF #14, an issue that allowed Polaris and Scarlet Witch to spend sister time together for the first time in a decade. And when we got Lorna’s origin story in X-Factor #243, after she went 40 years without one, the only promotion they gave it was a brief article on the Marvel website that didn’t even stay up for half a day… and the issue itself wasn’t even stocked well enough for all the people that wound up wanting a copy when they went to stores.

Important disclaimer. I did a lot of griping above. I think it is VERY important to point out, alongside all the complaining above, that Marvel HAS done a lot of good things with and for Polaris that I greatly appreciate.

Through Peter David, she got her origin story after 40 years and got to be the leader of her own team, rather than filling in for Havok or Magneto.

They brought her back to Earth, where she belongs.

They confirmed her to be a mutant again, crucial because it’s core to who she is as a character.

She got to be playable in a video game for the very first time in 2013, when she was always left out.

All of these great things Marvel has done over the past 5 years are why I really, really want to be wrong about my expectations on Secret Wars. I want to see Marvel make great use of her. My real dream situation would be for Lorna to have a solo ongoing or miniseries, but as a realistic and reasonable fan, I understand why that wouldn’t happen and I’m okay with that.

But I want her to be able to take meaningful part in events where applicable. I want to see her interact with other X-Men, and get acknowledgment, use and respect for how long she’s been with the franchise. Other fans really are demanding solo books, or for their favorites to star in more books even when they’re starring in four at once. I just want Lorna to get the same opportunities as all the other characters made when she was. It doesn’t have to be a solo book or making her the central focus of an X-Men franchise wide event, it just needs to be letting her get and stay involved.

Magneto’s the only Marvel book I’m reading right now. I’d probably be reading female Thor if not for Marvel retconning Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver out of being Magneto’s kids purely over a film rights spat with Fox. I would be reading All-New X-Factor if it was still going. When/if Magneto ends, if Lorna is nowhere to be found, then I won’t be reading any Marvel comics anymore.

So that’s my thinking. Again, I’m hoping I’m all wrong about what I expect from Secret Wars. I’ve had lots and lots of experience with companies disappointing me thanks to Square-Enix, Capcom, DC, Sega and Konami. I am hoping that, like Nintendo, Marvel proves to be an exception to that rule.

luchagcaileag:

I had a Gamergater who both insisted that I wasn’t an actual Gamer… and didn’t actually know how many games were in the Hitman and Thief series. I kept correcting them on saying Sarkeesian’s video features Hitman 2 rather than Hitman Absolution (and kept pointing out she wasn’t even talking about the game, per se), and their response was that everyone calls it “Hitman 2″, like everyone calls the new Thief game “Thief 3.” I then had to point out that Absolution was the 5th game and there was one actually titled Hitman 2, and that the lastest Thief was the fourth game. They quickly shut up on that topic after that and pretended it never happened.