And some people wonder why I’m so fiercely opposed to Havok forced on Polaris.
This series was initially reported as a Scarlet Witch series. Now, it’s actually a Vision and Scarlet Witch series, with Vision taking first name rights.
Before anyone says it. Yes. I’m completely and utterly aware that there was a comic book with this same title. I’m fully aware the reason they’re going with this duo and this title is because of that history.
That’s my entire point.
Something being old doesn’t make it instantly good. Having a history in the comics doesn’t mean it needs to be done that way, if at all. There’s no reason Marvel couldn’t have made this Scarlet Witch without Vision, or put Scarlet Witch first.
When I argue against Havok forced on Lorna, it’s for multiple reasons. One of those reasons is because I know something just like this could easily happen to her. Scarlet Witch is a character with interest separate from her dynamic with Vision, but in this situation, that interest is being used as a way to draw people in to something where Vision comes first. I’m not keen on seeing the same treatment happen to Lorna down the line if I can say and do things to prevent it.
its worse here because they whitewashed her, changed everything about her powers and kept the one part everyone wished they wouldn’t
Take a female character, rip away her heritage and background, swap out the power core to her identity, and then put her beneath another character. Exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t happen to any character, and which I’m certainly gonna try to keep from happening to Lorna if I can.
unfortunately theres not much we can really do to prevent it otherwise we’d probably have already done it for the maximoffs, this is the main reason why i dont care for comic book adaptations and comic books as a whole anymore they do this to like every Asian character (Maximoffs as previously mentioned, The Ancient One, Nightwing, The Al Ghuls and I could go on) and I’m always like wow could have seen someone like myself on screen but nope apparently
obviously Lorna doesn’t have those issues as she’s got no canonical cultural background aside from being Magneto’s daughter but you see how when characters who are canonically part of an ethnic minority get treated so obviously comics and their adaptations would have to work on focusing on that first if we want to make sure something like having a Polaris on screen that doesn’t center around a character who apparently can’t stand on his own.
In Lorna’s case, I think there’s a higher chance of avoiding these kind of problems compared to Wanda.
Wanda had more of a spotlight on her where these sort of issues were presented as acceptable or good, gradually building across decades.
With Lorna, though, all of the things done to her were mainly because people at Marvel didn’t like or respect her. There’s less “I’m a huge fan of this thing they did and will defend it to the death” going on. The spotlight on Lorna’s also come on very suddenly. Not enough time for Marvel to make it look like those things were somehow good.
That, and just in general I think the effort to prevent such things is worthwhile even if it seems like it won’t go anywhere. Maybe it actually will result in good things. And if it doesn’t, maybe it’ll trickle down so that some other writer or some other character benefits.
I agree that starting with comics is the answer, and that there are a lot of problems that need fixing. I think most of them can and should be dealt with simultaneously.
And some people wonder why I’m so fiercely opposed to Havok forced on Polaris.
This series was initially reported as a Scarlet Witch series. Now, it’s actually a Vision and Scarlet Witch series, with Vision taking first name rights.
Before anyone says it. Yes. I’m completely and utterly aware that there was a comic book with this same title. I’m fully aware the reason they’re going with this duo and this title is because of that history.
That’s my entire point.
Something being old doesn’t make it instantly good. Having a history in the comics doesn’t mean it needs to be done that way, if at all. There’s no reason Marvel couldn’t have made this Scarlet Witch without Vision, or put Scarlet Witch first.
When I argue against Havok forced on Lorna, it’s for multiple reasons. One of those reasons is because I know something just like this could easily happen to her. Scarlet Witch is a character with interest separate from her dynamic with Vision, but in this situation, that interest is being used as a way to draw people in to something where Vision comes first. I’m not keen on seeing the same treatment happen to Lorna down the line if I can say and do things to prevent it.
its worse here because they whitewashed her, changed everything about her powers and kept the one part everyone wished they wouldn’t
Take a female character, rip away her heritage and background, swap out the power core to her identity, and then put her beneath another character. Exactly the sort of thing that shouldn’t happen to any character, and which I’m certainly gonna try to keep from happening to Lorna if I can.
And some people wonder why I’m so fiercely opposed to Havok forced on Polaris.
This series was initially reported as a Scarlet Witch series. Now, it’s actually a Vision and Scarlet Witch series, with Vision taking first name rights.
Before anyone says it. Yes. I’m completely and utterly aware that there was a comic book with this same title. I’m fully aware the reason they’re going with this duo and this title is because of that history.
That’s my entire point.
Something being old doesn’t make it instantly good. Having a history in the comics doesn’t mean it needs to be done that way, if at all. There’s no reason Marvel couldn’t have made this Scarlet Witch without Vision, or put Scarlet Witch first.
When I argue against Havok forced on Lorna, it’s for multiple reasons. One of those reasons is because I know something just like this could easily happen to her. Scarlet Witch is a character with interest separate from her dynamic with Vision, but in this situation, that interest is being used as a way to draw people in to something where Vision comes first. I’m not keen on seeing the same treatment happen to Lorna down the line if I can say and do things to prevent it.
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