salarta:

To make sure this is clear, this is someone else’s confession. I’m just reblogging to add my own thoughts.

I don’t really have much to say regarding Emma. Insofar as Lorna, there’s two diverging things for me to say.

The first is that I’m holding out hope regarding the use of Malice. I’ve said before and more recently that there’s a lot of potential there, and I’d like to see that potential pursued. It’s understandable for a lot of people to be concerned given how Malice has been used in the past, but last time Malice was used with Lorna was 25-30 years ago. I think that’s enough time that it’s possible to revisit it intending to do much better than back then.

The second is that yeah, I’m very, very concerned about Havok not only being involved but having the whole arc named after him. He was already written in a way that completely stole Lorna’s return away from her in X-Men Blue #8-9 for Havok’s benefit, and Lorna’s been treated poorly around him so often (multiple decades) and so recently (Blue #8-9, parts of All-New X-Factor and X-Factor, especially out in space) that having Havok anywhere near her means an extremely high chance of her being treated poorly. I wouldn’t trust any writer to write Lorna around Havok right now, no matter who they are or how talented they might be.

And yeah, I will note that I noticed problems in Lorna’s treatment around Magneto, too. But I will also note that I think Bunn did much better in a couple issues (I think #15 and #16?) than issues prior.

So, at this exact juncture, I agree that Bunn’s had difficulties in writing female characters – but I think he’s trying to do better and learn from complaints and feedback. I’m not ready to say he’s incapable of writing them yet. That might change depending on what happens in the next several issues, though.

All in all, I’m trying to hope for the best.

I have to apologize to the person who originally submitted this confession. They were right. Bunn has absolutely clue whatsoever how to write female characters, and doesn’t even want to try to figure out how to do it. He only knows how to write women as extensions of and plot devices for male characters he actually cares about.

It was stupid of me to be optimistic. Nothing good ever comes of it, and I should’ve known better. Marvel needs to stick him with male-only casts where the only women he uses are ones he creates, not ones that actually have history and personality he can’t be bothered to understand.

To make sure this is clear, this is someone else’s confession. I’m just reblogging to add my own thoughts.

I don’t really have much to say regarding Emma. Insofar as Lorna, there’s two diverging things for me to say.

The first is that I’m holding out hope regarding the use of Malice. I’ve said before and more recently that there’s a lot of potential there, and I’d like to see that potential pursued. It’s understandable for a lot of people to be concerned given how Malice has been used in the past, but last time Malice was used with Lorna was 25-30 years ago. I think that’s enough time that it’s possible to revisit it intending to do much better than back then.

The second is that yeah, I’m very, very concerned about Havok not only being involved but having the whole arc named after him. He was already written in a way that completely stole Lorna’s return away from her in X-Men Blue #8-9 for Havok’s benefit, and Lorna’s been treated poorly around him so often (multiple decades) and so recently (Blue #8-9, parts of All-New X-Factor and X-Factor, especially out in space) that having Havok anywhere near her means an extremely high chance of her being treated poorly. I wouldn’t trust any writer to write Lorna around Havok right now, no matter who they are or how talented they might be.

And yeah, I will note that I noticed problems in Lorna’s treatment around Magneto, too. But I will also note that I think Bunn did much better in a couple issues (I think #15 and #16?) than issues prior.

So, at this exact juncture, I agree that Bunn’s had difficulties in writing female characters – but I think he’s trying to do better and learn from complaints and feedback. I’m not ready to say he’s incapable of writing them yet. That might change depending on what happens in the next several issues, though.

All in all, I’m trying to hope for the best.

x-men-yeah:

A comic from 1993

X-Factor #96

This is one of those things where the time period was between the 70s/80s of Claremont trying to tear her down, and later writers like Austen building her back up.

It was Lorna after she’d been gutted of who she was to be turned into a D-list or lower character whose identity primarily revolved around being Havok’s girlfriend. A lot of Lorna around this time was “I should repeat Havok’s philosophy instead of having my own.”

The Lorna of today has gone through a hell of Havok appearing to die (ripped her free from his “grounding”), surviving a genocide after training with her father on Genosha, losing her powers (and having an identity crisis over them), going into space to fight a space war, and getting tortured at least twice along the way.

IMO, this would be misrepresenting Lorna if this was her views today in the comics, but it’s a good point of character development that comics could cite for her. Could say she went from liking being a mutant, to blaming it for all her woes (as many people in deep emotional turmoil will do over even good things), to embracing it because it’s so central to who she is and her lived experience.

By contrast, having Lorna talk this way today would be undoing so much of who she is. It’d be throwing away all her work with and for mutants. It’d throw away all she’s suffered through with that work. It’d throw away her place in the overall mutant culture that Marvel’s already not let her be involved enough in for decades.

freakingquicksilver:

Last year I got the TPB of House of M Warzones which was a limited series, part of the huge new Secret Wars event. That comic was atrocious but it had awesome art and a lot of Pietro-Namor moments 😛

Its depiction and treatment of Polaris was great, but it did treat Quicksilver and at times Magneto poorly. That disappointed me because there was a very easy angle they could’ve taken with Pietro that would’ve treated him well: reveal he was playing Namor the whole time to get him into a position where Magneto could take Namor down and feel that warrior vibe again.

Wanda also could’ve done more.