I saw this before, I think when it was first made, but I’m only just now realizing that the touches of Lorna with silver/grey metal as a secondary color go back at least this far in Anka’s work.
The more I see it, the more I love and prefer it moreso than the gold I originally wanted to see on her. It’s not as ornate and regal like the gold, and gold was her original color, but the silver/grey represents her powers better and comes across sharper, harder and tougher.
In a fight against Juggernaut and Cassidy in their spacious castle
basement, Cassidy mentions the word “tomb” to the X-Men. That’s all it
took to send Storm into a claustrophobic fit that leaves her in a heap
on the floor for three straight issues. Imagine if he would have said
“Small Closet” or “Size 2 Jeans.“
The thing that makes this freakout so funny is that the X-Men become
more and more pissed at her as they fight. After uselessly punching the
invincible Juggernaut for hours, they start to take their frustrations
out on Storm, complaining that all their problems would be solved if
she’d hit him with some weather.
Unlike most of the freakouts in this list, claustrophobia is a real
thing. You know, as opposed to taking a crap in your pants when you
remember rocket accidents or not touching men because your dad had a
mustache. But this basement is large enough for eight jumping and flying
mutants to comfortably fight and still leave room for a nutjob to crawl
into the corner and cry. You can’t get claustrophobic in something as
big as a castle because you would have hung yourself in the car ride
there.
I think they were just being passive
aggressive, though; because when she does pull her shit together, her
first lightning bolt bounces off the Juggernaut and she knocks herself
out.
This leads me to two questions. One: What does it take to get fired from the X-Men? And two: You suck, Storm.
I still can’t get over it after 10 years and I’m still thinking about this issue. Claremont made Storm a useless character and had the X-men getting upset about her whining in a corner when she should help her crew. What a useless woman.
I love Storm, but there were times I started to disliked her. Thanks Claremont. But that’s not it.
He has made Storm having passion for women (EWWWW why WHY?). He humiliated her for quite some time. I didn’t like when he took her powers away. At least with Polaris he gave her a secondary mutation and didn’t left her quite a human. He turned her into a punk rock style. Rumors are she did it because she was in love with Yukio. Kitty Pryde was terrified by he awkward new look. She became such a masculine Storm that I didn’t even recognized her. I guess in the relationship, she wanted to be the bush. That’s how fucked up she was getting into. Thanks Claremont.
The panel I posted earlier where the crew are having a little party and in Storm’s arrival, she receive a platter on her face. I has to admit this was very funny. In X-Men Forever, Claremont has done some crazy shit with Storm. One of history’s greatest infamies. He turned the X-men against her, had Kitty sliced her face, she killed a few crew and wanted to rule the world where she believed she was above the law. The best part of the whole issues was when Polaris (Lorna Dane) almost killed Storm, because Storm killed Havok, the love of her life. Anyway, these are only some fucked up shit Chris Claremont did With Storm in his recent years. There are more, but for now I can leave you guys here showing why I think Claremont like to discredit her.
And people really has the balls to speak about how Claremont treated Lorna Dane? Well, the truth is, Storm was treated worst and was such infamy IMO.
Okay, so! Rebloggan!
I’m glad someone highlighted these panels where Storm was treated poorly by Claremont. I don’t know the entire history of every character; I know Lorna’s history. It’s good for me to hear about these things for my own knowledge, and also important for people in general to know. It allows people to recognize Claremont, like all writers, wasn’t perfect and did have bad moments. And it allows current writers to push themselves to do better.
I disagree with the attitude against Ororo being gay or bi, if that’s what the poster meant with “passion for women.” If it’s not, then I apologize for the assumption.
And now to the final bit: the comparison between Storm’s treatment and Lorna’s.
Storm had this bad moment, and probably a few others I don’t know about. But she also had a constant stream of great moments. Other characters deeply admired her. She became team leader. At several points, she was the character who saved the day, and Claremont gave her a HUGE showing for it. Storm becoming a household name, a core X-Men member who has been in almost every cartoon, film and video game involving the X-Men to date, is proof of this.
Lorna had no great moments with Claremont. Only bad ones. Malice had some good moments while she was in possession of Lorna’s body, but Malice is not Lorna. As Claremont’s run continued, Lorna was increasingly diminished. By the time Claremont was done with her, Lorna wasn’t a household name. She hadn’t led any teams, not even as a stand-in leader. She didn’t have an origin story. She didn’t even have her powers anymore, but more generic ones that took away a unique aspect of who she was.
X-Men Forever isn’t much better.
In X-Men Forever, Storm was put on an even higher pedestal. The evil version of her, a bio-synth clone who called herself Perfect Storm, was a force to be reckoned with. When X-Men Forever’s Lorna tried to attack this Storm by herself, she was smacked back unconscious almost immediately.
So here’s the real question: Did XMF Lorna defeat Perfect Storm? The answer: sort of, with lots of help. After fighting with other characters had already worn Perfect Storm down, XMF Lorna’s rage at Perfect Storm hurting Havok led XMF Lorna to getting the first powerful moment that’s actually Lorna’s I’d ever seen Claremont give her. BUT, she required the help of… Storm.
Young ‘Ro, to be precise. See, even with that rage, Claremont didn’t feel comfortable with letting Lorna have a victory to call her own. Despite how he has treated Storm poorly as demonstrated by the previous poster, Claremont still prizes Storm above all others, and much higher than Lorna. So naturally, the only way to beat evil Storm is with another Storm.
Storm had some bad moments with Claremont, but what he did to Lorna went far, far beyond that. It is in no way comparable. It’s like looking at a broken arm vs one that got chopped off and saying they’re the same, or that the broken arm is worse.
It took 44 years for Lorna to finally have her origin story told. It took 46 years before she got to lead her own team. That’s the damage Claremont inflicted on Lorna: he’d so completely devastated her, it took 20 years after his run for Marvel to give her something as simple as a beginning.
I understand people loving Storm. I understand wanting to protect perception of her. Ultimately, what was done to Lorna isn’t Storm’s fault at all. It’s Claremont’s fault. He chose to write these characters the way he did, when he could just as easily have written their dynamic the same way Len Wein did here.
But the fact remains that Storm was treated much, much better than Polaris ever was, and that continues to be the case. She’s starring on a book right now. She’s had a solo book, something Lorna’s never had and probably never will. And she’s led how many teams now?
Until Polaris gets her own solo book, gets included in absolutely everything X-Men and becomes a household name, there is no way Storm has it worse.
But I would absolutely love to see a day come where Lorna’s treated so well by Marvel that there would actually be room to debate which of them has it worse.
men fabricated the idea that they are the default sex to compensate for their biological inferiority and general superfluousness
this is not just the “natural order” this is the language of a patriarchal culture
Omg no, you are wrong on so many levels and as a linguist this makes me ache something terrible. In my linguistics class in undergrad, we actually made fun of people who think like you along these lines and for good reason, because you are wholly ignorant and are choosing to spin narratives about things and fields which you know completely nothing about yet pretend you do.
She: This word evolved naturally from Old English from seo/heo which were just words to refer to feminine-female people evolving from Proto-Germanic words meaning ‘that/there’. He as a word evolved from the same ideas but Proto-Germanic words for ‘this/here’. Your idea of “patriarchal language” further falls apart when you compare this part of English to other Germanic languages, of which English is related, the words in German for he and she are “er” and “sie”, completely unrelated. So it is by clear happenstance, not some patriarchal conspiracy that the words “he” and “she” in English have similar form.
Woman: Oh god this one always gets my goat when people go for this one. Man did not used to mean “male”, man used to mean “humanity/human being”, the old words in Old English for male adult person and female adult person were “werman” and “wifman” respectively, we can see this relation in words like werewolf and wife as being the remnants of the base “wer-” and the base “wif-”. Woman evolved phonologically from the word “wifman” by natural processes where the ‘f’ sound dropped and the ‘i’ became lax. Man dropped its “wer” stem for reasons mostly unknown but I can guarantee have nothing to do with “patriarchy” because phonological change has no basis in that.
Female: Male and Female actually come etymologically from two completely different words. Male comes from Old French “masle” which meant masculine, while Female came from Old French as well “femella” which meant young woman. This is another case, just like he and she, where the words coincidentally ended up looking similar without having any direct correlation in historical linguistic processes to make them as such.
Human: This word etymologically derives from Proto-Indo-European “ghomon” which means earthly being as opposed to heavenly being which would refer to gods. You have some small glimmer of hope here in that the word does eventually branch off into the word for “man” in some languages but this is still too small of a precedent to base any conspiratorial thinking like you are doing off of.
Person: This one offends me the most, simply because I love the fuck out of Etruscan language and your continued ignorance just irks me at this point. Person derives from “persona” from Latin which meant the same meaning, which ultimately derived from “phersu” Etruscan for ‘mask’ as Etruscans would often have theatre performers use masks to give identity to the performers. So never once did “person” have any meaning to do with “son”. So yes, this IS the “natural order” or language.
Please never proselytise your faulty ideology and misandrist thinking within speaking about word origins and morphology again, as unless you actually do fact checking, I will school the everloving hell out of you, stay in your lane.
“misandrist” holy shit wtf???
Use of the word “misandrist” by that guy alone makes most of what he said highly suspect and easy to ignore, but even if we assume every single thing he said there was accurate, none of it matters.
The vast majority of people aren’t going to look at he vs she and think “Oh, hmm, yes, it’s a good thing I’ve studied etymology at an extensive higher education level! That might look really bad to me if I didn’t have a master’s understanding of Old English and Proto-Germanic language.”
No, most people are only going to see what their education and culture present: that the word ‘he’ stands for boys, ‘she’ stands for girls, and therefore words for boys serve as the base of words referring to girls. The origins of these words have little to no bearing on how modern English users read and interpret them. The very existence of both the original graphic and a long-winded rebuttal requiring tons of fine details to get its message across is proof of this.
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